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Soon-ie
Feb 14, 2006 21:49:15 GMT -5
Post by Ducky on Feb 14, 2006 21:49:15 GMT -5
****yanked*****
to avoid spoiler controversy
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Soon-ie
Feb 15, 2006 11:36:53 GMT -5
Post by CaptainVideo on Feb 15, 2006 11:36:53 GMT -5
Today on "Vitamine" the showwas about stomach cancer. They were saying that even in advanced stages, it can have few or no external symptoms. The high incidence of stomach cancer in Korea is alarming. It's the leading cause of death there. The scientist sort of blamed salty foods, didn't he? Salt destroys the protective layer in the stomach. Also too much smoked and burned foods are bad (and they showed a BBQ grill). Sorry for the delayed reaction here but I forget sometimes; I actually did see that episode of Vitamin and was amazed at the timing in relation to this drama. First, let just say that I don't even play a doctor on TV, so BAE, if you're reading this, perhaps you could confirm my sketchy information or at least alert me to my blatant lack of knowledge. Okay, so Ginnycat, erosion of the stomach lining is not cancer, although it's not a good thing either; sounds more like a digestion problem. Cancer is a mutation of a cell or group of cells which as they develop and multiply, begin to crowd out the healthy cells out of real estate and they also build their own blood vessels to hijack the nutrients from the healthy cells and eventually, death from cancer is, to my understanding, almost a kind of starvation of the entire body system. Although I am not a proponent of the current regiment of cancer treatment (they're all highly toxic in their own rights), many people actually die from malnutrition due to loss of apetite from the chemo and radiation treatments (didn't I hear somewhere that radiation is actually harmful to people?) Last year, there was an announcement of a new drug being developed out of marijuana whose action was to target and kill the blood vessels leading to brain tumors and starve them to death. The issue with salt that the doctor raised (which surprised me!) was that the danger from salt came from naturally occurring nitrites turning into carcinogenic nitrates (or do I have that backwards?). All this time we all thought is was a danger of water retention leading to high blood pressure.
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Soon-ie
Feb 15, 2006 13:01:42 GMT -5
Post by Lucy on Feb 15, 2006 13:01:42 GMT -5
I believe that the destruction of the stomach lining--or any such repeated or long-term trauma to soft tissue--is considered a risk factor for cancer. I can't tell you exactly why, but I think that's what the connection is. I've heard that as an explanation for the high incidence of stomach cancer in Japan, too. The traditional Japanese diet, like the Korean, is really health-promoting in most regards, but not that one. Maybe the prevalence of stomach cancer as a cause of death is relative to other causes--i.e., it's thrown into higher relief because they have much less cardiovascular disease, for example.. I don't know--I don't play a statistician on TV, either.
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Soon-ie
Feb 15, 2006 20:51:16 GMT -5
Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 15, 2006 20:51:16 GMT -5
My mother used to chide me for using too much black pepper, saying she did the medical insurance at the place where she worked and the Polish workers had lots of stomach trouble, maybe because of the peppery sausages. ?? guessing?
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Soon-ie
Feb 15, 2006 23:33:07 GMT -5
Post by CaptainVideo on Feb 15, 2006 23:33:07 GMT -5
My mother used to chide me for using too much black pepper, saying she did the medical insurance at the place where she worked and the Polish workers had lots of stomach trouble, maybe because of the peppery sausages. ?? guessing? I don't know. This is where my limited knowledge begins to fail me. I have had doctors tell me that eating peppers is fine and will not cause ulcers. There was a benefit shown to be gained from the capsazin (sp?) in red peppers, but I can't quite recall what it is now. The contradiction I just saw was a show where they were touting the benefits of drinking vinegar, eating vinegar eggs and drinking the vinegar in which the eggs sat (apparently, the dissolved egg shells increase the amount of calcium in the solution). A friend of mine just sent me a book about the dangers of having an acidic diet. Again, I don't know, but I still feel as if I'm enriching myself by watching these shows as opposed to say, Cheaters or Elimidate. Ya know, I forgot to address your point, sorry. Polish people tend to be heavy drinkers ("Roll out the barrel...) so I wouldn't be so hasty to blame the noble pepper for the damage caused by alcohol.
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Soon-ie
Feb 16, 2006 10:52:09 GMT -5
Post by mikey on Feb 16, 2006 10:52:09 GMT -5
Just a quick note in this rather off-topic discussion ;D but as someone who's suffered some from stomach ailments (nothing life-threatening, thank heavens) note that BLACK pepper is extremely irritating to the stomach, while HOT peppers really aren't.
I can down hot chilies with little problem, but I pay dearly for consuming anything that's overdone with black pepper.
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Soon-ie
Feb 16, 2006 15:40:36 GMT -5
Post by BAE on Feb 16, 2006 15:40:36 GMT -5
I wonder why that is.... I can take anything with black pepper on it, but stay far away from chilies.
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Soon-ie
Feb 16, 2006 16:14:39 GMT -5
Post by TheBo on Feb 16, 2006 16:14:39 GMT -5
Mikey is yin to Bae's yang. Bo
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Soon-ie
Feb 17, 2006 2:18:19 GMT -5
Post by CaptainVideo on Feb 17, 2006 2:18:19 GMT -5
Just a quick note in this rather off-topic discussion ;D but as someone who's suffered some from stomach ailments (nothing life-threatening, thank heavens) note that BLACK pepper is extremely irritating to the stomach, while HOT peppers really aren't. I can down hot chilies with little problem, but I pay dearly for consuming anything that's overdone with black pepper. Gee, I hope everything is going well for ya these days Mikey. I have done some reading recently about the curative properties of water, particularly in matters concerning the stomach and digestion. Mostly it deals with the oxygen content of the water and the fact that we are basically starved for oxygen, no, really. Anyway, concerning having strayed from the topic, it's Soonie, I think this is directly related to the topic, well, sort of, but we got you to participate.
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Soon-ie
Feb 17, 2006 18:07:31 GMT -5
Post by BAE on Feb 17, 2006 18:07:31 GMT -5
Mikey is yin to Bae's yang. Bo So, I guess we're the Yin Yang Twins.
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Soon-ie
Feb 18, 2006 21:03:12 GMT -5
Post by Soju on Feb 18, 2006 21:03:12 GMT -5
The earliest memory of black pepper I have is when I was three years old, climbing up on the counter top early one morning, and looking through my Mom's spice rack. I found the jar of black peppercorns, and thought "Oh, this looks like candy!" Eating a couple soon proved me wrong Today, I really like balck pepper, but alwas in moderation! At one of the temples I visited in Kyoto, there was a very Commercial-aware priest, who had various Zen-related swag you coule buy. One item was a poster of various "Rules For Living." One of them was, "Less salt; More vinegar."
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Soon-ie
Feb 20, 2006 8:39:13 GMT -5
Post by BAE on Feb 20, 2006 8:39:13 GMT -5
I'm surprised that you can remember that far back.. my earliest memory is when i was like 7 or something...
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Soon-ie
Feb 20, 2006 11:49:45 GMT -5
Post by Lucy on Feb 20, 2006 11:49:45 GMT -5
POOR SOONIE! Everything is so sad for her right now. It must be horrible to know that there is nothing you can do, and that whatever your life has been to this point, that's all there is. I like it when her husband stands up for her and protects her now, but how bittersweet it is. I can understand her crying when she hears that. Life would have been so different if he had done that while she was well, before he had the affair. If only he had treated her like something precious all along. Now she's had to make the adjustment to let him back in her life and take care of her after all he put her through. I mean, he wasn't just unfaithful, he tore her down as a woman and treated her like something on the bottom of her shoe. It is very interesting to me to see her act like he's her husband now. She's letting her anger go, and I think a lot of that is out of necessity. What good does it do her to shut him out? If he is offering nurturing and husbandly care at this point, she does well to accept it, even though he doesn't deserve her forgiveness. In her position, I'm not sure what I would do.
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Soon-ie
Feb 20, 2006 16:55:58 GMT -5
Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 20, 2006 16:55:58 GMT -5
It might be easier to let him do the work of nursing her and caring for the children, all the while angrily thinking that "he SHOULD do all that and more, he deserves to have a hard time now, the creep", but I hope she can relax and stop feeling angry. If her hurt feelings can be soothed thru his affectionate tender care, she would feel better emotionally, maybe even physically, IMO.
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Soon-ie
Feb 20, 2006 23:43:55 GMT -5
Post by CaptainVideo on Feb 20, 2006 23:43:55 GMT -5
I'm surprised that you can remember that far back.. my earliest memory is when i was like 7 or something... Seriously, you don't remember anything prior to grammar school? Not memoir type memories, but not even individual incidents? I'm sorry to hear that, unless those years are not happy ones. Alright, now I'm getting sad over the prospect of you having had a distressful childhood; please tell me that you just have a poor memory.
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