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Post by TheBo on Jan 23, 2006 11:39:52 GMT -5
I still think Jung-woo is going to have to know sooner or later, Sang-jae can't control that, so if I were him, I'd want to be the person doing the telling.
Although, after that little scene Hye-sun had with Sang-mi, where she totally lied to her about why she left them and poor Sang-mi had her usual hurt-little-girl tantrum, I felt less sorry for Hye-sun. I thought she was trying to get some COOPERATION here, but instead, she does her best to hurt the very person who might help her. Not bright.
Bo
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Post by donilpark on Jan 24, 2006 1:42:52 GMT -5
Only if things were so easy like that. If you could see through the consequences of your own actions like a 3rd person observer, abstracted and removed from the active participants, life wouldn't be so hard for anyone. If you just look at the final result, than we don't need all the fussing in life. Get straight to the conclusion and do what needs to be done. Problem solved in one quick easy step. But the tension of the moment has to be relieved too. At the moment, it's not optimal to act in the way that will ultimately have to be. Rather than simply dubbing it stupid or unbright, I take it as a more natural reaction and try to understand what (situations or emotions) might have given rise to such a choice. Because after all, everyone has her/his own reason for the choice made. They probably don't make those choices to make their own lives more miserable. The right steps have to be taken before what needs to be done is done. Anyway, that's the attitude I look at things with. I guess that makes me a Devil's advocate in many cases...
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Post by pharaoh on Jan 24, 2006 17:35:42 GMT -5
Donil's correct. Things aren't so simple. It's complicated. Jong Woo's very fond of his family. And in addition to that, he found out that Hye Sun did something bad to the chicken store.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Jan 24, 2006 17:41:46 GMT -5
Donil's correct. Things aren't so simple. It's complicated. Jong Woo's very fond of his family. And in addition to that, he found out that Hye Sun did something bad to the chicken store. Where are you watching, pharoah? We haven't seen that yet in Chicago. I want to ask a question, but this isn't the spoiler thread.
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Post by donilpark on Jan 25, 2006 22:53:58 GMT -5
I think he's just talking about how she seized the chicken restaurant.
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Post by TheBo on Jan 26, 2006 12:22:45 GMT -5
Only if things were so easy like that.... Easy like what? You think it is easy to tell the truth finally? It is not, I never said it was. What I said was, even if you think you are protecting someone, there probably comes a time when you must tell the truth. When that time comes, it is better to take control of the situation yourself instead of stalling, because you're probably going to get blindsided by a third party if you don't take care of it immediately. Devil's advocate? You, donilpark? Nah, I think you're just one of those argue-ey people, LOL. I would never do that--argue--heh. Heh. Or MAYBE you're one of those discuss-ey people, or one of those think-ey people. I think you might be one of those educate-ey people, too. I think I'm watching too much Colbert Report. Bo
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Post by donilpark on Jan 26, 2006 14:37:02 GMT -5
Easy in the sense 'easier said than done.' We think they should tell the truth immediately because we can see what will be the best for them in the end, but it may not be so clear when their own vantage point. I'm sure you've had an experience where you argued with someone (not like the way we're 'arguing' here, friendly and nice, but acerbic and bitter) and knew that you had to apologize because that's the right thing to do, but couldn't bring yourself to do it, at least for a while until you thought over it enough and calmed yourself down. If you've never had such an experience, I sure have and I'm sure many people have as well. What's right (apology) is the right and good thing. I guess what I'm saying is, 'Yeah, they are wrong by not apologizing (or telling the truth, as the case may be), but they can't help it, so give them a break. Give them some time to work it out.' and since I'm advocating something bad, that makes me a devil's advocate. And it's not fun to have everyone say the same thing, right? Just to spice things up, I sometimes do take a position against the prevailing one. That again, makes me a devil's advocate for speaking something I may not necessarily believe in.
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Post by pharaoh on Jan 26, 2006 14:38:17 GMT -5
That's true. But things must be dealt with in time.Maybe stalling is better in this case. But think of the consequences that would have. Is it better to hurt now and be happy later or be happy and hurt later?
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Post by TheBo on Jan 27, 2006 10:11:09 GMT -5
Hurt now, happy later. Much better. You know, like getting rid of a cavity. Bo
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Post by donilpark on Jan 27, 2006 18:33:50 GMT -5
Actually, it should be
happy now, hurt later and then happy in the end
vs
hurt now and happy later
It's the subjective feelings that matter anyway.
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Post by theSPICYcabbage on Jan 30, 2006 16:07:34 GMT -5
lol AWESOME metaphor Bo
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Post by pharaoh on Jan 30, 2006 18:11:36 GMT -5
Actually it depends on what Jung Woo and Hye Sun wants.Maybe things will turn out differently in the end that we will assume. If Hye Sun wants Jung Woo, his one and only son to be happy, I think she'll let him go to his "family". If that's what he wants, that is?
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Post by Ducky on Jan 31, 2006 22:20:11 GMT -5
...If Hye Sun wants Jung Woo, her one and only son to be happy, I think she'll let him go to his "family". If that's what he wants, that is? Not going to happen... but they could drag this out until it gets painful to watch.... pass the aspirin and the remote.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 1, 2006 12:13:59 GMT -5
Is there a chance that she didn't really abandon him? What was the grandmother talking about when she said she "is sorry for leaving her that way"?? Did she drive her out to the countryside and abandon her by Ilho's orders? Did she have her committed to a mental hospital, for depression after the death of her husband or maybe post-partum depression? It baffles me how characters hardly ever deny accusations of wrongdoing when they are innocent. Ms. Kang is evasive about why she left, but maybe it wasn't her doing. ??
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Post by TheBo on Feb 1, 2006 13:39:29 GMT -5
From my viewing (which is admittedly a bit behindmost), I got the impression that she left the child with Sang-jae out of desperation, with a note explaining herself and asking for his help, and later went back to get the boy but was told he was put into an orphanage. I also got the impression that he really WAS put into the orphanage, but Sang-jae got him out before Hye-sun could locate him, and adopted him somehow (she never found out who adopted him--I would think she would be able to if they knew). Finally, I got the impression that Il-ho (big baby chickenheaded monster brat) had done something to Hye-sun that forced her to leave the child with her stepchildren and not explain herself to them. Also, since she seems ashamed to tell her step-family what really happened, I wondered if it had something to do with Il-ho seducing her and by that means somehow causing her to ruin her stepson (Sang-jae).
Just guessing.
Bo
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