Post by kathleen34 on Sept 8, 2005 22:58:16 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]THE END?? [/glow] I thought this was a 20-episode drama - didn't we miss about 4 of those 20 episodes?
What happened during and after Surgery? How did she end up under Andrea's care? ...for what, 2 years? Several years?
How did Woojin work out his love?
Ordination: Ordinations are full of ritual, honor, and elegance. Remember in the opening scenes Andrea was cloked in some rich gold-threaded vestments ... in a prostate position with a tear falling from his eye?
So was I the only fan abducted by aliens when all that happened?
geema Your hands are so pretty. Your cheeks are so pretty." Eunha answers back to Andrea, "You are pretty all over".
Yes as goofy said this is only 16 ep. long. I think it was wierd how they showed the surgery and then kinda fast forwarded to years ahead. When Woojin came to see andrea with the flowers it was difficult to tell if he meant give them to her or put them by her grave the way the translation was. Or is that how it was meant to sound to make us anxious to see where Andrea was going?
As for the opening scene, Andrea was in street clothes in the church pleading with god to save Eunha at any cost. The ordination they showed the beginning but not the whole procession I believe. He had to go to a meeting at the dioses (sp?) to see if they would accept him to be ordained first.
Post by BungalowDweller on Sept 9, 2005 8:04:46 GMT -5
This ending is like life itself--not exactly what we had thought. It reminds me of the lyric written by John Lennon from his final album, "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans".
During the surgery, the eyes said it all. Anguish in Woojin, support and encouragement from Andrea, a tear from Mom. When Woojin's hand starting shaking as he readied to make the first incision, Andrea held that hand in support and love. . .
Andrea understanding that as he ran from love, he was running from God as well because God IS love. I liked when Andrea told Eunha that her love for him was not something that was a sin, indeed, how can pure love ever be a sin? It was her love that truly opened Andrea's heart to his Creator. Only when Andrea could stop asking, "Why God why? or When God when?" was he at peace. Peace in the midst of all hell breaking loose--the possibility that the one person in his life who loved him unselfishly might die. That indeeed is the "peace that passes all understanding".
Woojin's dad committed suicide because he could never forgive himself. Yet when he spent hours preparing the surgery file for Eunha he forgot His pain and could give his best for someone else and for his son. It was his greatest gift. When Woojin found the file and the letter his process of healing began. His dad said something about trying to grab what He wanted and that such behavior ultimately didn't give him what was good. The Change was already visible in Woojin when he asked his mom to assist in the operation. His face, as she hugged him, said so much. He was letting the anger, hurt, and disappointment drop. He was accepting things as they were. His change of heart was evident in one of the last conversations he had with Eunha, when he told her that he wanted her to live and be happy. I felt that he expressed that for HER and not in the context of himself in the picture. Like his dad, his finest hour was when he could forget his hurts, anger, and disappointment and perform the surgery.
Later, when Woojin goes to South America, he uses Eunha's experience there as a benchmark for his own tour of duty there. He said something like, "If Eunha could be there two years, he could at least do" thus and such. Eunha had become an example to him and he was expressing his love for her through his service as a surgeon. His refusal to see Eunha was a sign of maturity. Woojin knows his heart and he knows his limits. He understands that the pain is too great and that it is better for him to stay away. He has reconciled himself to his mom, sister, and Andrea.
I liked it when Andrea was speaking to Eunha and he asked her if the reason she didn't wake up was that she was afraid to. I liked the line, "When you wake up, we'll love again."
The ending is full of possibilites. What happens to Eunha? Does Andrea leave the priesthood for her? Does Woojin return to marry her? Does she stay single? In a way it doesn't matter. As Andrea said in the church service, we are all here to love one another. It is only through the power of love that we can change any thing at all, and the best love is expressed not for what we can get from the other person in return but for the sake of Love Himself. Love is eternal . . .
Post by BungalowDweller on Sept 9, 2005 8:25:54 GMT -5
And one more thing. . .I went back to the krystalheart.com/loveletter site and read the final episode. It looks like entire scenes of the final episode we watched last night were cut away. It explains why Eunha and Andrea were sleeping in the little hut near the sea, etc. I'm disappointed to think that these scenes were cut away.
Post by galacticchick on Sept 9, 2005 9:09:09 GMT -5
oh that scene when they are holding hands and crying...priceless. It's like their crying saying goodbye not only to each other, but also to their dreams, their hopes, etc.
Bungalowdweller, your post captured everything I wanted to say! I've been arguing the same point and I'll argue it again. I think they do end up together in the romantic sense. Andrea says "When you wake up, let's love again", the wind blows through the trees and just the whole way that was shot made me think that it was God who lets Eunha wake up from her sleep. Then you hear the little boy's voice say "God if you want us to live send us a new rope (I'm thinking this means a new chance to be together), else send us a rotten rope (maybe that means eunha would have never woken up). I don't know that's my $0.02
Grandparents from WML: "Are my words dog's nose to you?"
I think I am interpreting this way different. I think this is trying to show us something much more than just romantic love. When Eunha says find me in the next life Andrea says "even if you become a grain of sand, I will find you." When he was making his point to become ordained he had said he had to learn to love and pass that love to others. This is what the bishop was pushing to find out for himself. It seems that these 2 were together before this life and will be again in the next as well. Notice how Woojin said he would not have the strength to bear this for so long. His love was more "worldly" not "infinite" as we see the love between Andrea and Eunha is. This show seems to get tiresome but I like the way it ended. Makes you think a bit about relationships, all relationships.
Post by galacticchick on Sept 9, 2005 9:41:23 GMT -5
I think I am interpreting this way different. I think this is trying to show us something much more than just romantic love. When Eunha says find me in the next life Andrea says "even if you become a grain of sand, I will find you." When he was making his point to become ordained he had said he had to learn to love and pass that love to others. This is what the bishop was pushing to find out for himself. It seems that these 2 were together before this life and will be again in the next as well. Notice how Woojin said he would not have the strength to bear this for so long. His love was more "worldly" not "infinite" as we see the love between Andrea and Eunha is.
That's a really interesting theory, Chigirl. Hee-hee, I it's like Hana from WML said "I'm simple, so I think simple things" I just want Andrea to be happy plain and simple. He deserves it.
Ohh, which reminds me of a point that someone else made, if Andrea is a Catholic priest, I don't think he would believe in previous/next/past lives to they? Seems like somebody didn't to their homework. Although how nice would it be for a girl to hear "even if you are a grain of sand, I'll find you"*swoon*
p.s. Chigirl, since this was your first modern drama what did you think? Will you be tuning in for the next one (except if it's Wife).
Galchick, I think most people have contradictory feelings when it comes to their religion and other beliefs. True being a priest you would think reincarnation would not be in his belief system. I know many Catholics and other Christians that believe in reincarnation (thus contradicting their chosen religion). I think there are some things that you feel (and know). Like if you know someone that you just know you knew them before. I don't think that feeling can just be dismissed as coincidence.
Well as for another modern drama, I'm not sure. Maybe another short one. Let's see just what KBC decides to either get or dust off from the shelves for us.
This ending was very beautiful but I don't understand it completely. It did seem to me, in context, that Andrea was saying that he wanted to be lovers with her again. Here's what he said: "I'm trying hard to fulfill my promise to you, that I'll be by your side when you wake up. Is it because you're afraid of putting me in a hard spot that you're not waking up? I should have told you back then, when you asked me what I'd do if you wake up. I should have given you an answer. If you awake... let's... love again, OK?" And I wondered, what kind of a priest puts on and takes off the collar so many times, and if he does give it up for her, would she even want that? And a further question, why did she want him to be a priest rather than a man to love her the way she had always loved him? When did she change her mind about that, and why?
But given what you've all said, I guess his words could be ambiguous. They could mean that if she wakes up, everything will be OK, and he is promising her that they will both go on giving love to the world rather than being together as husband and wife. I can see that she was like the guy in "Wife," (I shudder to make the comparison, though), who wouldn't wake up because he couldn't make a decision between the two women. I think Eunha never woke up from her operation because she couldn't be sure what awaited her--what Andrea's feelings would be and what he really wanted. And here's where it all falls apart for me. She was so unhappy all those years because she loved and wanted him but he was pledged to God. Okay. So things finally occur so that Andrea is able to acknowledge his love for her, and he even comes to see it as God's will, but by then Eunha is in this weird state of loving him as much as ever and still wanting him to be a priest. Doesn't make sense to me. I'm not saying worldly love is all that matters, but it seemed clear to Andrea that his real destiny was to love her and that he had already made the decision to leave the clergy. He only went back because she wanted him to. And we're supposed to feel good about all this love-love-love business because it's so spiritual and beautiful even though it doesn't fit with the characters.
But in the end, I go back to my original opinion. He says LET'S love again--meaning "you and me." I think he's saying he belongs to the world and to her, and vice versa. They are not saints, after all, and I don't know where they got this idea that God values only "spiritual" love and thinks love between humans is lesser and sinful, especially once one of them has gotten it into his head to become a priest. I don't think that if there is a God, and he's Catholic , he thinks there's no take-backs once you say you want to be a priest. Only people who want to devote themselves wholly and unreluctantly to the priesthood should do it. If you have something better to do, so be it!
And, finally, how could the fact that one of the main characters is in a coma, and for how long, not be explained? So they just put this girl in a bed for some unknown length of time--probably years--and let her be Sleeping Beauty and not explain why and under what circumstances? I'm sorry, but that's too much to swallow. And patients don't just "sleep" beautifully in a lovely, open-air seaside home with no tubes or wires attached for years. How is she fed and "bathroomed"? I hate these frustrations that inevitably come at the end of Korean dramas.
I think the ending was too rushed! The surgery was done so casually, you'd think they would make a bigger deal out of it. I found myself yelling at the tv throughout most of the episode, especially when I got the sinking feeling this was the end. I can't believe she asked Andrea to be a priest after everything they went through. Why couldn't she be satisfied with the fact that he would rather be a man in love than a priest? I almost felt like she pressured him into it. The ordination didn't seem honest to me because he was still in love with her. By the time of the surgery, I almost wished that she did die because his priesthood would've been in vain if she had lived. Her comma did seem too depressing, but yes she eventually woke up. The ending was very ambiguous. I guess you can choose whichever interpretation you like. Either you chose to believe they ended up together, like conventional endings or you take a whole other perspective. Damn Mexican novelas (soaps)!! I'm too used to the happy ending where everything is perfectly spelled out and it ends up in a wedding or the birth of a baby. I'll choose to believe the romantic ending, it'll keep me from stressing out too much!! Nooooo!!! I still can't believe it's over!!!! I wish it had been longer!!! It brought me depressingly good times!!!!!
I Damn Mexican novelas (soaps)!! I'm too used to the happy ending where everything is perfectly spelled out and it ends up in a wedding or the birth of a baby
;D yep all mexican novelas have a happy ending, and it's usually the same thing. After alot of drama, the poor girl ends up with the rich guy and they live happily ever after. It's always the same.
Anyways I just saw the end of LL this weekend. I was a little bit confused as to why Eunha was in a little house by herself with nobody there to take care of her. But when Andrea came in and told her "lets love again," I took it as he was willing to put everything behind and be with her. I think he only became a priest because it was Eunha's wish before she died (or so she thought she was going to die) and I think he was trying to honor that wish. Though I really don't understand why she kept insisting and insisting that he become a priest. Anyways in my mind, after she wakes up, he walks away from the priesthood and marries Eunha, they have some children and he opens up an orphanage, end of story
I was not pleased with the ending, I was happy she was alive but hated the delivery of this ending. it seemed like the whole drama dragged on and then they rush to the end. Hope the next one is a better one.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I choose stronger!
Post by FlowerLady on Sept 13, 2005 22:11:10 GMT -5
I think he only became a priest because it was Eunha's wish before she died (or so she thought she was going to die) and I think he was trying to honor that wish. Though I really don't understand why she kept insisting and insisting that he become a priest.
That is what I think, too, because I believe that Eunha, being a doctor, thought she was so ill that she would be dying of her heart defect in the near future, anyway. Therefore, she thought it best to just encourage Andrea to be a priest, as it would make him happiest ultimately, if she were not there to be with him. She was close to death when she asked Andrea to promise to administer the sacrament of Last Rites to her (and of course, he would have to be ordained to do that). Because he said to her that if she woke up, "let's love again", I believe he meant that they could love each other as man & woman in the romantic sense, but not the physical sense (unless he left the priesthood once & for all). ** By the way, one of my favorite scenes was when Andrea said to Eunha, "Your hands are so pretty. Your cheeks are so pretty." Eunha answers back to Andrea, "You are pretty all over". I LOVE THAT LINE!! It is just so sweet that they were confessing their love and attraction to each other.
Some days I need TWO pieces of chocolate in the afternoon..........
** By the way, one of my favorite scenes was when Andrea said to Eunha, "Your hands are so pretty. Your cheeks are so pretty." Eunha answers back to Andrea, "You are pretty all over". I LOVE THAT LINE!! It is just so sweet that they were confessing their love and attraction to each other.
I agree! I thought it was so sweet and true! I read a transcript on some other site that had the line as "you are beautiful inside and out," but I like it "our" way better.