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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 11:55:34 GMT -5
Post by Lucy on Feb 21, 2005 11:55:34 GMT -5
Wow, I missed a couple of days and look at all the new messages! I guess it's time to confess that I, too, ordered the Polaris necklace--it should be here tomorrow, along with the album "Sang-hyuk" recorded. (He's got a couple of them out, but this was the cheapest and, from the customer reviews, sounded the most enjoyable.)
As for Mihee lying about Joonsang's father, have you noticed that she hasn't outright lied, in a manner of speaking? All she's done is refuse to answer or say things that would lead him to think he and Yujin are sibs, and now she's just letting everyone believe it. She's as much as clued SH's father that he is also JS's father, even if she did so inadvertently by saying, "the difference between you and [whatever his name was] is that a person in love believes what the lover says." Which I take to mean, you believe me that HE fathered Joonsang, but SH's father did not. (He wasn't in love with her.) I think she lied to SH's father, telling him that she was pregnant with his child, to try and keep him, but he didn't believe her and went on to marry Yujin's mother.
So yes, she's definitely lying, but it's that sneaky "lying by withholding the truth" kinda thing.
Oh, and speaking of mothers, I HATE Sang-hyuk's mother. She is so mean to Yu-jin, for no good reason. Yu-jin has probably seen SH a total of 3 times since they broke up that his mother knows about, and the last time she didn't even seek him out. But SH's mom has to jump on that and berate Yujin for using her son. What a b**ch.
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chi8
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 11:59:09 GMT -5
Post by chi8 on Feb 21, 2005 11:59:09 GMT -5
Why doesn't anybody think that Yujin is strong enough to hear the truth (if that's what it is)? Joonsang tells his mother that she couldn't handle it, and Sanghyuk can't tell her either. Is this Korean chivalry? They don't want her to think ill of her father? They just go cat-footing around and expect her to follow blindly (right down the blind alley). And Sanghyuk breaks into the wedding and just hauls her away? JS doesn't interfere because he knows what's up, but Yujin just meekly follows?
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 12:07:47 GMT -5
Post by Lucy on Feb 21, 2005 12:07:47 GMT -5
Joonsang tells his mother that she couldn't handle it, and Sanghyuk can't tell her either. Is this Korean chivalry? They don't want her to think ill of her father? They just go cat-footing around and expect her to follow blindly (right down the blind alley). And Sanghyuk breaks into the wedding and just hauls her away? JS doesn't interfere because he knows what's up, but Yujin just meekly follows? Oh, man, I don't even bother questioning stuff like this anymore. It's unbelievable that Yujin would have let him drag her off like that. She's a big girl; she should have no difficulty yelling "NO!" and slapping his hands away. At the very least, she could run back to the church and ask JS what the h*ll is going on and why he isn't stopping SH. But no, all she can do is call his name and then sit in the car while SH goes around to let himself in.
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 12:40:09 GMT -5
Post by Alexa on Feb 21, 2005 12:40:09 GMT -5
But no, all she can do is call his name and then sit in the car while SH goes around to let himself in. All I can say is, she has some serious issues!
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 13:42:37 GMT -5
Post by BungalowDweller on Feb 21, 2005 13:42:37 GMT -5
Which album was that,if I may ask? I was looking on yesasia.com but I couldn't seem to find anything. Maybe I misspelled Sang-hyuk's real name. I've also found that annyoung.com isn't particularly user friendly. Sigh, I'm just a low-tech girl in a high-tech world!
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 13:49:06 GMT -5
Post by galacticchick on Feb 21, 2005 13:49:06 GMT -5
But no, all she can do is call his name and then sit in the car while SH goes around to let himself in. She did try to open the door, but I guess Sanhyuk had the child safety lock on the door or something because even though she was trying to unlock it, it wouldn’t budge. I felt so bad for Yujin in this episode because you can tell how traumatized she is by having lost Joonsang in the first place, now everytime she doesn't know where he is, she freaks out and fears that she's lost him again.
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 13:50:28 GMT -5
Post by Alexa on Feb 21, 2005 13:50:28 GMT -5
She did try to open the door, but I guess Sanhyuk had the child safety lock on the door or something because even though she was trying to unlock it, it wouldn’t budge. This is true BUT she shouldn'tve gotten in the car in the first place. I guess it aggravated me cause if I were in her shoes, I would've put up a fight.
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 14:00:21 GMT -5
Post by galacticchick on Feb 21, 2005 14:00:21 GMT -5
Yeah, she needs better feline instincts. With the scratching and the biting and the hissing.
BTW, wasn't it in this episode when Joonsang is giving her all this advice, about not being so forgetful, clumsy, etc. And you can see this worried look on his face as he's telling these things and then she asks him if there isn't anything good about her and he's a swan's feather away from crying and he has to walk away. I loved that scene. It really made me tear up.
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 17:56:12 GMT -5
Post by galacticchick on Feb 21, 2005 17:56:12 GMT -5
Another scene I really liked was in episode 24, when he's waking up from his sleep. He's in the hospital and then the nurse says "Oh, you're finally up." and he just has this look on his face, and it expressed what he said next, "I didn't want to wake up." He didn't even need to say it because his facial expression said it all, he's in such pain that he would have rather kept sleeping. It's like he expected to die from the pain. This guy is a wonderful actor.
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EP #23
Feb 21, 2005 18:18:42 GMT -5
Post by hachiue on Feb 21, 2005 18:18:42 GMT -5
This series is so evil and I hate it and want it to die! And, yes, I think it is truly appropriate - wtf?!! I think, especially since Sanghyuk's dad slept with her the day after Hyunsoo got married and Yujin and Joonsang are so close in age, and because Sanghyuk's dad was in enough doubt to get a blood test, and Sanghyuk's dad is definitely Joonsang's dad. And I am so glad that Mihee actually showed a little remorse when she saw what she'd done to her son because she wanted to keep Hyunsoo's daughter away from her son. Anyway, that is a pretty selfish reason to keep them apart. Sorry if her love didn't work out but she's a bitter woman who's hypocritical if she's keeping apart two lovers with a big fat lie like this. And I love how Cherin jumped right in "Oh Joonsang I'm taking you home - isn't it too bad that you and Yujin are related." Gah! This series is evil. I can't wait to see the next two episodes. So what do people think about Joonsang's willingness to take her to a church and "get married" even though he knew? (Yes her dress was very ugly - the one that Cherin made for her, even though it was ugly, it was better than this.) It's kind of odd, don't you think?
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EP #23
Feb 22, 2005 10:03:04 GMT -5
Post by Alexa on Feb 22, 2005 10:03:04 GMT -5
So what do people think about Joonsang's willingness to take her to a church and "get married" even though he knew? It's kind of odd, don't you think? Hmm, I guess in a way he was in denial not wanting to accept the fact that she is his sister (if she indeed is) so he probably thought the quicker we get married the better. And they didn't grow up together, weren't raised together as brother and sister, he doesn't love her as a sister but as a woman. I don't think it's okay, I mean I cannot see myself marrying someone whom I know is my brother (even though we found out as adults). It'd be crazy, but I guess for Joonsang, the love he has for her is so deep that he won't accept the fact that they are related. Well I guess he accepts it now cause he left her. Man that is so sad, the way he looked at her the last night they spent together, the way he was crying by the ocean, so so sad. Okay so today is Tuesday, we have 4 more days to find out the truth.
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EP #23
Feb 22, 2005 10:50:48 GMT -5
Post by galacticchick on Feb 22, 2005 10:50:48 GMT -5
So what do people think about Joonsang's willingness to take her to a church and "get married" even though he knew? (Yes her dress was very ugly - the one that Cherin made for her, even though it was ugly, it was better than this.) It's kind of odd, don't you think? I love the fact that he loves her so much, understand that he loves her as a woman not as a sister, but still, I'm disturbed. It just gives me the creeps. I asked my mom kidding around "So...you don't have any extra sons I don't know about, do you?" Ha! That Oh Cherin, still clinging to the hope that Joonsang will give her the time of day. GIVE IT UP! Even if he's Yujin's brother, it doesn't mean he likes you.
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EP #23
Feb 24, 2005 2:30:44 GMT -5
Post by hachiue on Feb 24, 2005 2:30:44 GMT -5
I loved her expression when Sanghyuk told her though. It was like "hah! I have finally won! Yujin cannot take him away from me anymore!" It's like she doesn't understand that maybe Yujin wasn't the only thing between them and maybe her actions since he broke it off with her have put him off a little too. I mean, she was more than a little stalker-ish.
Also, it seems that even though Joonsang was in denial, he wasn't completely off the deep end. I thought that when I initially saw them in the darkened church with no priest or officiant to marry them and no witnesses. I mean, that wouldn't have held any religious weight. And no legal weight as they didn't register their marriage. It's like Joonsang was just doing this as a romantic guesture before he left her anyway to fill some hole in both of their hearts.
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