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Post by seven stars on Jan 12, 2006 10:16:16 GMT -5
Are there members of this forum who were educated on history in Korea, China or Japan?
If so I would be interested to know the differences in perspective on Yi Soon Shin and in the way that he is characterized from the historical viewpoints of those three nations.
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Post by Tim on Jan 12, 2006 21:01:58 GMT -5
Erm... well, I've seen this textbook about historical people that had affected the Chinese in some way or another. There's this one chapter where it did talked about the Imjin War. They did mention YSS, but they talked more on Hideyoshi.
I think some educated Chinese historians know him, but not much. I think it's because the Imjin war has a bigger impact on Korea and Japan, and China was nothing more than a mere spectator.
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Post by Jack on Feb 8, 2006 10:57:32 GMT -5
I am afraid that Yi does not get a lot of press his great works. I have read a lot of history about the Imjin war and it is more on Hideyoshi than on anyone. Yi is not even name in Montgomery book "History of Warfare" just how Korean war ship were better than Japanese. I think this has to do more with the fact that the modern world has more interest in Chinese and Japanese as it effect the word than Karena does (it only changes when their is war there) I have enjoyed learning about Yi and wish he got more credit.
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Post by florel on Feb 24, 2006 15:54:57 GMT -5
YSS's name is mentioned in ROBERT 2 (a french dictionary). But only with three lines. Yi Seong Gye, the founder of Chosun, received 4 lines, Gim Hong Do (18-19th c. painter) 4 lines, Gim Il Seong (aka Kim Il Sung) 6 lines, Bag Jeong Hui (Park Chung Hee) 5 lines, Yi Seung Man (spelled as Syngman Rhee ) 12 lines. No mention about Great King Sejong who invented Hangeul. ... I was desesperately searching in Robert a name of Italian painter. No mention about him. Certainly he is not famous and only known to specialists.
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Post by grunt on Apr 13, 2006 18:09:01 GMT -5
For one thing, i know how modern japanese navy officials viewed admiral Yi. Well, japanese ppl might deny it, but it's a fact that Dogo Heichiro actually studied the strategy and tactics of admiral Yi, refined it, and used it to defeat Russian fleet in Russia-Japan war. When japanese navy was still in infancy, the jap navy officials gave a serious thinking to how korean navy operated in imjin war. Why? ... well, as we all know, the jap navy got decimated by korean navy during imjin war and the kill ratio was just unbelievable. In battle, especially sea battle, such a kill ratio is unthinkable since there is not much room for tactical manuver due tu the nature of open sea.
Japanese navy officials discovered the secrete of korean success should lie on the usage of cannons and more importantly how korean navy deployed their firepower. (Crane-formation that was used in Han-san sea battel is a typical example. Actually, Han-san sea battle is the first ever sea battle where cannon's firepower was used tactically to destroy enemy fleet in long distance. Many scholars consider Han-san sea battel as one of the world's 4 great sea battle because of tactical/strategical innovation of the battle.) The japanese navy officials (Especially, Dogo) started to think about the implication of this battleformation in the modern sea battel and soon came up with T-formation. (which was very similar to Crane formation.) The point of this formation (and Crane formation) is the concentrated firepower at the right target and at the right moment. The jap navy was outnumbered by russian navy, so they needed to to have an edge in firepower by utilizing some clever battleformation. In the end, the japanese navy annihilated russian fleet. (In his book, Winston Churchill wrote that he started to consider Japan as equal power to western powers after this sea-battle.)
One of Dogo's subordinates, a captain who commanded a destroyer during this battle later wrote a novel, and he described how highly japanese navy officials regarded Admiral Yi.
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Post by Ethan on Apr 17, 2006 0:06:41 GMT -5
Yes, that is true. I am Japanese and I loved this drama very much ( in the area where I live the drama ended a while ago.) I sincerely respect Admiral Yi simply because he is such a great person with full of virtues that I think highly of in my life. The episode about the Japanese navy officer Heihachirou Togo is said to be historically true. He even prayed the Admiral Yi for protecting him and Japanese navy giving them a good luck to win the battle facing the direction of the battlefield where Admiral Yi fought. I am not sure how widely he is mentioned in history textbooks but I know one highschool textbook that he is referred as to because of Korean navy admiral Yi Soon Shin Japan defeated from the sea and couldn't go any further to continue the war.
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Post by grunt on Apr 17, 2006 9:34:19 GMT -5
it can be well said that admiral Yi practically stopped japanese advance in the war. AFter japanese army captured payng-yang, they had some serious problem with the supply line because of korean guerilla attacks and the attacks from remanant of korean army. The original plan (devised by Hideyosi himself) called for the jap navy advancing along with the jap army. But, the jap navy failed to do this because of admiral Yi. Without enough supply and reinforcements, the jap army had no choice to retreat to the southern area where they can have stable supply line at least. If admiral Yi couldn't stop the jap navy, then what? who knows ... maybe, the east asia might be speaking japanese now.
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Post by seven stars on Jun 19, 2006 12:00:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the insights on this friends. Especially Grunt and Ethan. If anyone else has something to offer I will thank you for sharing it with us. As a side note: Could we refrain from using slurs as we discuss please. Thanks everyone
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