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Post by JP Paulus on Sept 28, 2005 21:35:10 GMT -5
Just wondering...i may have missed the episode...but did we see what happens to to Chun Su (Baron Im)...
Seems like a lot of storylines have just kinda dropped or ended...i may add a new thread about the pacing of the series...it seems like they spent a lot of time on Yi Soon shin's fictional early adulthood, but fast forwarded the most exciting (and "true") part of his life!
Anyway--for this thread...i wonder about the Chun Su storyline.
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Post by FrederickII on Sept 29, 2005 0:43:58 GMT -5
I was wondering about that my self.
I thought he would show up as the spy to the Korean court to get Yi Soon Shin dismissed.
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Post by Eowyn on Sept 29, 2005 7:41:00 GMT -5
Perhaps they decided to just drop the storyline, perhaps it was unpopular. From some of the posts I read from Choko and our other Korean members, I kind of get the feeling that the show gets tinkered with along the way.
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Post by TheBo on Sept 29, 2005 14:37:51 GMT -5
They seem to have a DIFFERENT spy mucking up the works--the one who gave YSS the false info that led to his torture and removal from office. Maybe he's the REAL guy and this is where they could work him in, so they didn't need Chun-su and Hong any more.
Too bad about Hong, but Chun-su can suck rocks in any corner of Heck as far as I'm concerned.
Bo
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Post by joltcola on Sept 29, 2005 19:00:51 GMT -5
They seem to have a DIFFERENT spy mucking up the works--the one who gave YSS the false info that led to his torture and removal from office. You mean Yoshira. In episode 87 he made his intentions clear.
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Post by JP Paulus on Sept 29, 2005 22:38:48 GMT -5
Too bad about Hong, but Chun-su can suck rocks in any corner of Heck as far as I'm concerned. Bo As much as we all hate Chun-Su, i think he was important as he embodied some of the reasons why in some ways, Korean Society was susceptible to invasion, and why not all Koreans would resist the Japanese, but in fact even help them. (i.e. starting from oppression, but finding that the "freedom" of Machiavelian capitalism is a trap in itself). His reaction to YSS' death would be interesting...what kind of commentary would the writers make on Korean society then --and now?
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Post by Daemado on Sept 30, 2005 9:31:47 GMT -5
I saw Chun-su the character as "the man you love to hate," but I'm with JP on Chun-su as social commentary.
I wonder if Chun-su was dropped for political reasons. As a government-run network, KBS has been accused of shilling for whatever political party happens to be in power. One of the more controversial and divisive issues of the past year has been (drum roll) collaborators from the Japanese colonial era! Maybe KBS was afraid of accusations that the show pushed an Uri Party agenda.
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Post by Trespasser on Oct 1, 2005 0:50:44 GMT -5
The actor who plays Chun-Soo was paid several times more than YSS actor, so he was dropped from the show to cut cost.
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Post by TheBo on Oct 1, 2005 15:40:33 GMT -5
Wow, trespasser, how pedestrian, LOL. But, probably logical.
Bo
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Post by Trespasser on Oct 1, 2005 19:24:20 GMT -5
It is a fact.
Remember that the pay for contract actors is determined by seniority. Since Chun Soo actor was in acting business far longer than YSS actor, he gets paid much more than YSS actor. I estimate he was getting paid $2000 per episode, relative to $500 for YSS actor's pay.
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Post by Trespasser on Oct 1, 2005 19:31:15 GMT -5
The show was a mess and a lot of planned characters were dropped, like the Jesuit Priest preaching the gospel in the middle of war and warrioress Chohee born in Japan and raised to become a Samurai and chops off lots of head(YSS and Nalbal were sadistic to fall for a blood-stained warrioress), etc.
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Post by Daemado on Oct 2, 2005 8:24:39 GMT -5
OK, so much for my conspiracy theory ;D
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Post by Aging Warrior on Oct 2, 2005 9:55:25 GMT -5
It seems somehow appropriate that Chun-su would come out of IYSS wih more cash than anyone else. I know that we aren't going to see him again but I think the writers should have have tried to get him into one of the final episodes. He may be fictional but he wasn't a minor character.
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Post by Daemado on Oct 2, 2005 11:08:00 GMT -5
It seems somehow appropriate that Chun-su would come out of IYSS wih more cash than anyone else. ROFLMAO!
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Post by florel on Oct 7, 2005 18:23:15 GMT -5
www.newsen.co.kr/news_view.html?news_uid=20949 (article in Korean) I came to be informed that Kim Kyu-Cheol (Chun-Su) was seriously injured on the 21th July 2005 when he climbed up Bukhan Mountain in Seoul. At that time, IYSS Episodes 91-92 (the Battle of Chilcholryang) were aired in Korea on the 16-17 July 2005 and Episodes 93-94 on the 23-24 July 2005. I don't know if the writers have already decided to drop Chun-Su before his injury because we haven't seen him after Episodes 80's. Possibly. Anyway, if they wanted to show Chun-Su's end before episode 100, they haven't been able to do it because of the actor's injury. Regarding Chun-Su's character, I heard the dramatists originally planned that Chun-Su's trio would have tried to steal the Turtle Ship (for Wakisaka?), but failed and they would have been pardoned by YSS. But this idea was so unpopular that the dramatists abandoned this plot in front of Korean viewers' huge protest. It seems that KBS is dependent, not upon the government but upon the tyrannic viewers. I also heard that, in the original novel ("The Immortal Yi Soon-Shin"), the evil merchant Chun-Su became repentant and turned into a positive character (after YSS's pardon?) and he helped YSS for his victory in the Battle of Myungryang offering the Admiral his huge fortune. I'm not sure if Chun-Su was a friend of YSS's youth in the novel because, as Choko let us informed, there are differences between the drama and the novel. And, as I didn't read the novel, I have no idea upon what happened to Hong and Mujik. And I'm wondering what happened to Chun-Su after the Battke of Myungryang. IMO, Ronin's opinion in another thread, is more realistic : Chun-Su would have gone to Japan and lived there. But if the novelist wrote his "turn" in a convincing way (it really depends on the writer's competence), it would be acceptable even though many of us would like to see Chun-Su's downfall and punishment.
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