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Post by Aging Warrior on Jan 15, 2005 22:09:09 GMT -5
This episode was heartbreaking. They village was special community. I wish someone there had had an Uzi. I loved Mijin kicking ass. I wish she and YSS were destined for each other.
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Post by jbones31874 on Jan 15, 2005 22:23:18 GMT -5
OMG!!!! At the end of that episode I was just about to get up and break something. But, let me just calm down and take it from the beginning. At first, the destruction of the village was kinda given when we saw the Japanese. But, what really rubbed it in was what happened to the people in the village. Eunu and Naibai were so emotionally broken by what was happening. Jang-Pyung and Mijin were taken hostage, but I thought they were going to be saved when YSS got to the shore. When he showed up I almost jumped out of my seat and was very high spirited with him dominating all of the japs. He was beating everyone there and I wanted him to free Mijin so that maybe she and him can try to build back up the village. However, she was taken in the end at that really started to fuel my rage. Then after the political stuff, they went back to the main story as of now. Then I see that guy walk down and attempt to rape Mijin. Right then and there I was like very close to breaking my tv. I just hope that she doesn't endure that. Maybe Wazakai will come in and stop it before it gets under way, and have her do labor instead. But, I am just hoping that YSS and Mijin will be reunited again and will do some serious butt whoop to that japs. Geez, I still can't seem to get my rage out that guy. Maybe tomorrows episode may calm me down.
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Post by first post on Jan 15, 2005 22:38:49 GMT -5
yes, it was very satisfying when soon shin whooped them japs' asses. they always come back for more dont they.. but soon shin lost so much...mijin and the other guy, his master, the village...the episode was just so sad and it made me furious. the end made me pissed too. I knew that when they took her away the japs were going to rape her and stuff but when I actually saw it my heart just sank.  |
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Post by ID on Jan 15, 2005 23:19:50 GMT -5
This was so great, I was crying. It was kill,kill,kill! Screw the storyline. Screw their love affair. This is what i'm talking about. Just cut them down. This is like the Korean homage to the great Action films of the 1980's. Cute girl gets kidnaped. Man slashes, cuts, stabs, and slices through thousands of foreigners, all while forgetting to kiss his girl. Charlie would be proud!
Ok, Ok, i'm calming down. I'm just happy that the Soap Opera part is finished. But I had several problems with this episode. For one, it was way too over the top. Is this Yi Soon Shin, or is this Rambo? I highly believe that the writers have lost themeselves, while attempting to "modernize" this show. I'm enjoying this show much more now that there is action {though the first four episodes remain the best}, however, this is supposed to be about Admiral Yi Soon Shin. If I wanted over the top action, and pointless side plots {this is to be blamed on the Emperor}, I would watch a Bronson film.
Another sign of weak production, {much like the fact taht they have four different "mood" songs, which plays each one in each episode} is that they have to use flashbacks of stuff that we already seen, about three times, to fill in time space. In AOW, I enjoyed when they showed the lives of the warriors, after they died. However, here they are using flashbacks in each episode. Not only does it lose effect, but it becomes frustrating as well.
Still, I love this show. For what is lost in attempts to come up with new plots, it is made up with excellent acting, and direction. I love martial arts, and I love the story of the real Yi Soon Shin. I seriously hope that it gets back on track.
By, the way, whats with the use of the phrase "Japs". What the heck is this, Commando? And here it is even more out of place. First I get attacked for using the word "queer", and now you make ME look like i'm a ........ {can't think of anything that won't get me into trouble} Or maybe it's you new guys.
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Post by pakyownage4eva on Jan 15, 2005 23:27:33 GMT -5
Well I'm korean, the producers are korean so it can get emotional
But I do agree. When Soon Shin was charging all those guys like he was super pissed I thought "now can one guy really take all of them?"-and he did. And they got what they deserved..
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Post by ID on Jan 15, 2005 23:30:38 GMT -5
Well I'm korean, the producers are korean so it can get emotional Please explain to me further. I do not see what you are trying to say. And welcome the boards. Hope you enjoy sharing with us. |
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Post by pakyownage4eva on Jan 15, 2005 23:37:07 GMT -5
Hehe I will stick around cause I like the drama and the man.
But anyway, you asked if this is "Yi Soon Shin or Rambo?"
I was just saying that the producers were maybe a bit biased in making the fight scenes and exaggerated the butt-whooping because they were emotionally involved.
The scene where Mijin is raped made me sad :/
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Post by jbones31874 on Jan 16, 2005 1:06:58 GMT -5
Im sure just about everyone was either pissed off or sad about that. I mean everyone loves Mijin. I mean she had her parents killed in front of her eyes and lived like a peasant, and now this. Not only that, Chong Su has sunk even lower. I mean they should execute him for treason. If it wasn't for Mujik, he would be long out of the picture. Maybe later on, we will to find out how YSS will eventually get his revenge. I remember that dude Wazakazi from the first 4 episodes with the scar on his face. I know he was taken down there by YSS. But, I just know that after this Gon Yang tragedy, YSS will be out for blood soon. So IMO, more fighting scences with YSS!
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Post by luvarchfiend on Jan 16, 2005 9:21:44 GMT -5
this was an extremely powerful episode. it was a very difficult viewing experience....like the rest of you i was saddened and enraged. i cried for almost the whole show. from the senseless slaughter of the villagers, the anguish of nalbal ( i really lost it here), the capture of mijin (who fought so well), the fight scene with yss coming to the rescue and then dropped his sword (i held my breath), the master shows up and the fight resumes (i was hopeful here), and then they take mijin and pyung away, and the master dies....just writing it is disturbing and emotional.
the last scene when mijin is being attacked.....that was too much. i could hardly stand to watch.
i think this may be when yss gets that haunted look in his eyes that i have commented on before.....i believe his burden of responsibility must begin here....
yes, a difficult episode to watch....i almost dread 24.
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Post by General Hyun ChiWon on Jan 16, 2005 12:24:03 GMT -5
I have to ask, is Mijin a real person, or a ficticious character made up by the producers?
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Post by Choko on Jan 16, 2005 15:20:34 GMT -5
I have to ask, is Mijin a real person, or a ficticious character made up by the producers? She is a ficticious character based on the original novel "The Immortal" It is very interesting to see you guys like Mijin better than Yeon-wha. Korean viewers are on the opposite side. (I like both of them though) |
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Post by skinz on Jan 16, 2005 16:04:42 GMT -5
this was an extremely powerful episode. it was a very difficult viewing experience....like the rest of you i was saddened and enraged. i cried for almost the whole show. from the senseless slaughter of the villagers, the anguish of nalbal ( i really lost it here), the capture of mijin (who fought so well), the fight scene with yss coming to the rescue and then dropped his sword (i held my breath), the master shows up and the fight resumes (i was hopeful here), and then they take mijin and pyung away, and the master dies....just writing it is disturbing and emotional. the last scene when mijin is being attacked.....that was too much. i could hardly stand to watch. i think this may be when yss gets that haunted look in his eyes that i have commented on before.....i believe his burden of responsibility must begin here.... yes, a difficult episode to watch....i almost dread 24. I tried to warn people.  By, the way, whats with the use of the phrase "Japs". I was thinking the same thing. We have to remember that "Japs" is a slander word for the japanese. I can understand the drama to use it for the hatred of the invasion on the korean people and to show how the people felt during that era, but using it freely like that to discuss a scene that got you excited is wrong in my opinion. They could be several Japanese members in this forum. So,in the future, I would choose my words carefully to express myself. |
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Post by ID on Jan 16, 2005 16:38:59 GMT -5
Well, in the drama the drama itself, they use the word "Japanese". I guess Christy Kim is saving time. But for American men, it can be misunderstood. What gets me, is that it's being used on this board.
As an American male, I will say this: Mijin is very cute, no matter what situation she is in. Yun-Hwa, to me, isn't attractive with the dress,a nd the wig.
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Post by Aging Warrior on Jan 16, 2005 16:54:53 GMT -5
It is very interesting to see you guys like Mijin better than Yeon-wha. Korean viewers are on the opposite side. (I like both of them though) I think that's because they already had an emotional attachment to Yeon-wha as YSS's wife before they started watching the series. As someone who was introduced to these characters through this series, I find Mijin far more interesting and desirable. I hope the writers pull a last minute save for her at the beginning of the next episode. Fight scene's where one character takes on a whole group are always over the top but they worked here. YSS kicking but and then the master showing up after he dropped his sword had me whooping. The only part that was too much was when YSS and the head of the Japanese expedition ran past each other while slashing their swords and then just stood there in a tableau. I always want to smack the characters when they do that. It's a silly arty cliché. While I'm quibbling: Where did Mujik come from? He just pops up in the village. He doesn't have a horse to get there like Chun-su and the Japanese. Why did he go there and how did he get there? |
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Post by Eowyn on Jan 16, 2005 17:17:16 GMT -5
This episode was heartbreaking. They village was special community. I wish someone there had had an Uzi. I loved Mijin kicking ass. I wish she and YSS were destined for each other. Yes, so heartbreaking this episode. That nice village.... Mijin was awesome fighting. Nalbal's grief was overwhelming, with him shouting, "Soon-shin, take me with you!" Then Soon-shin comes running to Mijin and the potter's aid, wearing that shimmery light green robe. The fight on the beach was awesome as well; it was as if you could feel the wet sand beneath your feet. The erratic, close-up shots of action were intense, as was the scene with the samurai screaming at Soon-shin and then pulling out of himself whatever that object was that had impaled him. Also, Mijin yelling to Soon-shin as she is pulled away. And Master Nam running so fast to come to their aid, leaping in the air, only to later be stabbed through. So sad his death scene as well as Soon-shin running into the water (up his neck) after the departing boat, unable to reach it. I thought the music evoked both the heroism and the hopelessness of the fight - it beginning with the YSS themes song pounding out and then ending with that sad song of lament. Then came the end - Soon-shin letting go the red ribbon, which swirls in the water, and then saying how Mijin's old, frayed ribbon had always bothered him and how he had wished to tie the new one in her hair with his own hands and how he wanted to take away the pain in her heart. It was horrific to see that man approach Mijin at the very end and to see her screaming face as the camera freezes. A heart-rending, intense episode. I did think it great of the emperor to let that eunuch continue to pick up the rice in the roadway. |
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