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Post by Alexa on Nov 15, 2004 8:38:04 GMT -5
So I'm sitting there watching Episode 10, and I'm practically biting my nails in the scene where Chae-ok goes to the temple where her parents are buried and Sung-baek goes in and looks at her and keeps on walking. Then when the priest/monk tells Sung-baek that a girl was asking who put her parents stones there, Sung-baek realizes that the girl in the temple is his sister so he runs back and she's gone. AHHH, I was so nervous, I'm thinking, his going to find out that it's his sister, but he didn't! It's so horrible that they are related. Why did they have to make the storyline like that? Why couldn't it be a normal love triangle? I mean what is going to happen when they find out that they are brother and sister? Sung-baek is already in love with Chae-ok. I think Chae-ok is becoming confused and is starting to have feelings for him. Which is why I don't understand one thing. Why is she so desperate to catch him?
And what is up with that one guy that had all the people in the leper colony killed? How can he be so cold-hearted? Is Sung-baek allies with that one man? I mean I don't think he likes him at all, but he still listens to him. Is Sung-baek being blinded to the truth, that the man he works for is actually evil? I feel bad for Sung-baek because like I had said in a previous post, I don't think he's the bad guy. He's like Robin Hood, trying to help out the common folks. That man is just using him, because the people listen to Sung-baek, they respect and love him. And that Japanese guy, man I really want to see Sung-baek fight that Japanese guy! I was so upset after the Japanese went and killed all those people. That was just horrible.
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Post by hachiue on Nov 15, 2004 9:06:00 GMT -5
Oh yes, and on that note, WHY didn't Chae-ok turn and run to him after she heard him calling her real name?! That made me so angry that she didn't!
And, what, doesn't he know where in the temple his parents' stones are? If I walked by and saw a girl who could be the same age as my long-lost sister crying in the exact spot where I'd placed my parents tablets then I would kinda surreptitiously check it out to see if she's really in front of those tablets.
And I agree with your second paragraph. Sung-baek wants to bring revolution, probably because of his father, and he's a good Robin Hood-type guy. However, the old guy is evil - he's the type who maybe was previously idealistic like Sung-baek but lost that long ago as he was fighting for the country's liberation. So now he has no scruples.
What's with all the Japanese samurai? They were the chosen hired killers of the evil in Korea?
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Post by Alexa on Nov 15, 2004 9:13:02 GMT -5
Well I don't think Chae-ok heard Sung-baek calling out Jae-hui. She probably heard something, but I doubt she heard it clearly. Remember she stopped for a few seconds and listened, but then kept on walking. My guess is that she didn't hear clearly. And about the temple, maybe other people had placed tablets there, that's why Sung-baek didn't pay much attention. And since he saw a woman there crying her heart out, he probably didn't want to interrupt and be rude. But if I was him, I would've definetely checked to see who she was. And how in the world did she walk out so fast? He had just passed by, talked to that monk and by the time he went back she was gone. What did she do, pull one of her flying moves? The way they showed it, she was pretty far away by the time Sung-baek was out there screaming her name! I felt so horrible for him, he loses his parents, his sister, his friends at the leper colony  It was heartbreaking, to see him on the floor screaming and crying. And what is up with that lady that is all in love with Lt. Yoon, and asked him to marry her? She knows that he doesn't love her and yet she still wants him. Wouldn't it be hard to be with someone, when you know that he doesn't love you back? |
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Post by hachiue on Nov 15, 2004 12:08:07 GMT -5
Nanhui? Yes, I don't get her. She's probably pulling one of those "he will love me in time" things. And she apparently doesn't care who he sleeps with since she was encouraging Chae-ok to move in with them after they got married. So, what, she could be a concubine? That's just rude.
Yeah I don't think that she heard him clearly. She should've been close enough to hear him, though, if their conversation really only lasted a couple of seconds. That's a bit of creative timing on the show's part.
Then again, I still don't get it why he didn't tell Chae-ok that his father was dead. If he's looking for his sister, then you'd think that he wouldn't go around spreading misinformation. And, he should've kept his real name - it would be a good idea for notoriety with his brigand gane and it would've led his sister to him.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 15, 2004 12:14:47 GMT -5
Then again, I still don't get it why he didn't tell Chae-ok that his father was dead. If he's looking for his sister, then you'd think that he wouldn't go around spreading misinformation. And, he should've kept his real name - it would be a good idea for notoriety with his brigand gane and it would've led his sister to him. Well he probably didn't keep his real name, because of his father, it probably would've been easier for the soldiers to track him down when he was a young boy. When Chae-ok asked him if his dad was still alive and he said yes , I think I screamed at the tv! I was like "what the heck is your problem, tell her the truth!" I was so mad. But then he is so blinded with love for her, that the thought of her possibly being his sister, hasn't even crossed his mind. |
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Post by hachiue on Nov 15, 2004 14:44:54 GMT -5
I keep screaming at the tv whenever I think it would be fortuitous for either of them to use their real names. Such as when Chae-ok went to address the king, she could've given him her damo name but then her real name - I think that would've added import to her telling him of the schemes since it's the daughter of a traitor saving the country.
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Post by Knov1 on Nov 15, 2004 14:49:45 GMT -5
Why is she so desperate to catch him? Because of Yoon. You have to remember some of the conversations that Chae Ok has had with Yoon. She's told him more than once that he's the only family she's had since she was 7. In part, she feels like she's a stumbling block to him. That he would be better off if he didn't feel like he always had to protect her. She wants to redeem herself for all the trouble see feels she's caused him. And what is up with that one guy that had all the people in the leper colony killed? How can he be so cold-hearted? Is Sung-baek allies with that one man? I mean I don't think he likes him at all, but he still listens to him. Is Sung-baek being blinded to the truth, that the man he works for is actually evil? I feel bad for Sung-baek because like I had said in a previous post, I don't think he's the bad guy. He's like Robin Hood, trying to help out the common folks. That man is just using him, because the people listen to Sung-baek, they respect and love him. All those questions will be answered in the next couple of weeks. |
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Post by Alexa on Nov 15, 2004 15:24:07 GMT -5
Because of Yoon. You have to remember some of the conversations that Chae Ok has had with Yoon. She's told him more than once that he's the only family she's had since she was 7. In part, she feels like she's a stumbling block to him. That he would be better off if he didn't feel like he always had to protect her. She wants to redeem herself for all the trouble see feels she's caused him. So in a way she doesn't want to hurt Sung-Baek but she feels like she has to because she owes it to Yoon. Right? Well that's dumb, Sung-Baek has been really nice to her and when she was pretending to be a mute boy, he went along with it knowing full well that she was lying. If he wanted to he could've killed her right then, but he didn't. |
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Post by hachiue on Nov 15, 2004 16:05:25 GMT -5
Out of this, I get the argument: screw Yoon. He's mean to Chae-ok, he constantly tells her to get out, he protects her, sure, but then he reminds her of it FOREVER (kind of like the bad mother-in-law).
Instead, she keeps trying to get herself killed. It's like she won't feel like she's repaid him until she dies doing something in his service.
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Post by valtoy on Nov 15, 2004 17:21:36 GMT -5
Sometimes Chae Ok makes me so mad! During this episode, first I said "foolish girl". She loves her police captain, but won't admit it and he admits his feelings for her, but she prefers to stay unhappy and leaves him to marry the other woman...okay, she is a slave and is bogged down with her feelings of inferiority, but she could be happy with him ---- then after being transferred to the other police/military station with that rather annoying guy who has a crush on her...she is about to die of boredom. I love it when he says "we don't do anything here, but sweep the courtyard, and she needs to be involved!!! and he tweaks her cheek (I wanted her to scream....let me out of here) so thank goodness the "dirty old man" made her run away. She would have withered away and dyed in that place. Then --- I thought, what a selfish girl...she goes to Horse Boot, who finally is settled down, and makes him go with her to find Jung, and takes him from his wife with child....I wanted to slap her silly...just to further her cause to get Jung! Argggg. But that's why I love this show. It makes me think about things... I do think her destiny is to run wild with Jung, at least she can use her fighting skills and be "alive" rather than dye a long boring death as a Damo in another police dept that won't let her do anything, but massage their backs... I would like to see her with her brother, even if they are on the wrong side rather than the right side.
Valerie
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Post by Knov1 on Nov 15, 2004 17:39:04 GMT -5
So in a way she doesn't want to hurt Sung-Baek but she feels like she has to because she owes it to Yoon. Right? That's not really what I meant. She loves Yoon. However, she feels like she's getting in his way instead of helping him. Therefore, she wants to do something for him, because she loves him, even if it means her death. |
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Post by Alexa on Nov 16, 2004 8:28:54 GMT -5
That's not really what I meant. She loves Yoon. However, she feels like she's getting in his way instead of helping him. Therefore, she wants to do something for him, because she loves him, even if it means her death. But she already did! She risked her life to speak to the King in order to get Lt. Yoon and the other man out of jail. And yeah, she didn't die, but now she will never be able to have children. What more can she do? She's done enough for him. |
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Post by hachiue on Nov 16, 2004 15:31:46 GMT -5
And, didn't he betray her by sending her to the military training place instead of letting her capture Sung-baek? I agree with Alexa, totally. I know that she still feels guilty that she didn't catch him for Yoon - I hope that she finds out that he's her brother soon so she can feel a little less guilty - oh wait, or more guilty, since she'll carry the familial guilt of yet another rebellion.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 16, 2004 15:58:25 GMT -5
And, didn't he betray her by sending her to the military training place instead of letting her capture Sung-baek? . When was this? Well she better find out soon that Sung-Baek is her brother, there's only 4 episodes left! |
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Post by hachiue on Nov 17, 2004 10:08:45 GMT -5
Well, actually the General told Yoon that he had to send Chae-ok away and marry Nanhui. So it wasn't really Yoon's fault. I'm just angry at him because I know there are a lot more things he could do for her, especially since she keeps risking her life for him.
I'm wondering if she'll ever find out that they're siblings, or if she'll find out just as she kills him (maybe that was the meaning for his comment, "I already killed you once," as in, he killed her by leaving her behind).
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