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Post by TheBo on Mar 17, 2005 10:37:36 GMT -5
If Fog and Night are equally beautiful, why is Jae-min dressed like a Beatle (umm, Paul, I think) when he visits the bar? And cannot Young-lan obtain a wig of reasonable proportion? How many actors can there be in Korea, if Hee-soo would be able to read the profile of every single one? For the answers to these and many other questions...doesn't it feel like this series is winding down? Eun-soo is married and his book is published, Young-lan has recovered from her illness and reconciled with her exhusband's family, Jin-kook has started his business, ESM and DD are settling into their roles as future grandparents, the Bobbsey Twins have their store (I thought they sold it) and their baby, Grandma has confessed her secret and seems "happy at last"...what's left?
Aigu.
Bo
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Post by kathleen34 on Mar 17, 2005 10:48:58 GMT -5
YES! Young-Lan would look better w i t h o u t hair... that's really an awful wig.
Love the Beatle reference .. after a few beers Fog and Night are equal. Fog and Night are Grapes... Fog and Night are just about anything. They all seemed to love the title. 'another round for everyone!'
I still remember seeing that there were 180-somehing episodes... wouldn't that take us to May?
DufusGolfDad (DGD).... continues to crack me up ;D
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Post by Lucy on Mar 17, 2005 11:38:30 GMT -5
Gosh, Bo, you must have missed quite a few episodes. The twins did sell their store; this is a different one. Looks like it's in a mall. What I find hilarious is the idea the series writers seem to have that publishing a book is a simple matter of typing it up and taking it to a publisher, where you then (inevitably) sign a contract. In fact, Jin-kook seems to think that Eun-soo even gets to choose his publisher. HA!
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Post by TheBo on Mar 17, 2005 12:49:45 GMT -5
Yah, as to the book--I found that oh-so-amusing, as anyone who has tried to get even a little poem published can attest. But this is not strictly a Korean misstep. On the AmerSoap, One Life to Live, there is a character who wrote her first book and one month later, her agent (!!!!) was throwing her a publishing party.
Yeah. Sure. I'll bet that movie Jin-kook is making hits Sundance in a few days.
Bo
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Post by TheBo on Mar 17, 2005 12:52:20 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, I'm not really watching too much any more, just occasional glimpses when I can and this morning, I got to watch the whole thing.
It's just like AmerSoaps (this is not a compliment). You miss weeks and weeks, and when you tune in again, you know exactly what's going on.
Bo
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Post by Lucyunlogged on Mar 17, 2005 12:56:26 GMT -5
One other thing about the book/film that's been bothering me all along. Why is Eun-soo writing a novel if Jin-kook is immediately going to turn it into a movie? Why didn't he write a screenplay? I do understand that in today's publishing world, film rights are sometimes sold as soon as a book is signed to a publishing house, but that's for high-profile books, not first novels by an unknown author. And, in this case, Jin-kook has been waiting to get started while Eun-soo finishes the book. Seems like a weird way to proceed. I know it was Eun-soo's dream "to write a detective novel," but it's just a bizarre "let's put on a show!" scenario all around.
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Post by galacticchick on Mar 17, 2005 13:45:48 GMT -5
One other thing about the book/film that's been bothering me all along. Why is Eun-soo writing a novel if Jin-kook is immediately going to turn it into a movie? Why didn't he write a screenplay? Aigu! I hadn't even thought about that. That's a good point. This is by far one of the worst k-drama's I've seen. Right next to OMR.
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Post by hachiue on Mar 17, 2005 16:01:02 GMT -5
I'm just excited that they mentioned the Niebelungen saga!
Is that line from a Beatle's song too?
And, hey, we can't forget the huge inevitable problems that are going to result when Jeehae finds out about the baby's mom (even though there shouldn't be any). Does anyone think that Junghee will still go crazy? Younglan is back and everyone is being much nicer to her than before. And we still have 40 more episodes (or so).
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Post by Lucyunlogged on Mar 17, 2005 16:23:43 GMT -5
There is a famous documentary about the Holocaust called "Night and Fog." I wonder if the title comes from the Nibelung saga. Anyone know?
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Post by Lucy on Mar 17, 2005 16:35:03 GMT -5
OK, I had to log in after all; I have so much to say. Yes to the criticism of Young-lan's wig, for one thing. But I think she looks cute anyhow. Having lived through the '80s and Dorothy Hamill-esque hairstyles, I can tell you that if your hair is thick enough and it's cut in a certain way, it will pouf up like that. But her hair is pretty darn long for having been shaved off for a brain operation (I mean, come on, they don't just give you a shorter cut, so obviously the show is going for a growing-back-after-shaving look), so WHY isn't Hee-soo's tummy any bigger? In the time it would take for her hair to get that long, HS would definitely be showing. All of a sudden I'm finding myself ridiculous for devoting so much thought to this show. And yet I go on: Hachiue, you're right that just because there is nothing to get upset about anymore, Jee-hae won't hit the roof and kick off a new subplot. This drama is by now notorious for making molehills into mountains that just as quickly collapse back into molehills (e.g., the birth mother's return) while shoving huge problems under the rug (e.g., the felon living under DD's roof)! Back to Hee-soo reading all the profiles of Korean actors--good point. Maybe she should just cast Bae Yong Joon or something.
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Post by panther on Mar 17, 2005 17:05:36 GMT -5
as much as i liked this show in the begining its draging along now. i mean when will hee-soo have her twins? when will esm run away again? when will hee-soo's mom start treating junghee like her personal slave? we may never find the awnsers
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Post by Lovely on Mar 17, 2005 19:05:31 GMT -5
I also want HS's twins to be born already! I can't wait ;D! Just when I thought ESM was changing...she went and told DD that she and him will mostly be raising the twins while HS goes out everyday with JK. I like Young-lan better with her long hair. The new look makes her look a lot more older. Jung-ae sure is treating her a bit more kindly now . I was expecting a brawl between Young-lan and Jung-hee, but it looks like they've made a truce. It was nice seeing all 3 ladies sitting at the table without going at each other's throats .
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Post by sandy on Mar 17, 2005 22:55:00 GMT -5
I still can't see how Hee-soo can be pregnant and not showing. It's just impossible that Eun-soo, an unknown writer, will get his book published right away, and Jin-kook will open a studio to make a film. Isn't this novel supposed to be based on ESM's running away with the money? Young-lan suddenly returns after surgery in America, clearly indicating that she plans to be part of the family again. Who's that new actress who's supposed to be in Jk's movie? Keep an eye on JK who still seems to be a playboy.
Jung-sik, Hee-soo's Dad, has supposedly gone to visit an uncle who has been in an accident. We need him there at home to mediate between his wife, Young-lan and Jung-hee. I think JH is gracious in trying to keep peace.
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Post by effendi on Mar 17, 2005 23:49:00 GMT -5
Lucy,
In response to your question about the title of Alain Resnais' 1955 documentary, it came from the ``Nacht und Nebel'' (Night and Fog, natch) decree Hitler issued in December 1941, saying that discordant elements were to disappear without explanation. I don't believe the phrase refers to anything in the Nibelungenlied. I remember being taught at one point that it was a quotation from Goethe, but I can't recall now from which work. ``Erlkonig'' takes place on a foggy night, but the phrase doesn't occur in that poem as such. Incidentally, Resnais seems to have chosen the title for its rhetorical power, not its historical accuracy. His documentary was mostly about the killing camps where the Jews, Slavs and Romany were sent for extermination. The Night and Fog decree, which wasn't fully enforced until 1943, actually didn't apply to those people. Instead, it was aimed at intellectual and political enemies -- mostly members of the French Resistance, the Norwegian Underground and the Italian Partisans. The odd thing is that most of the people rounded up under Night and Fog were merely held incommunicado at the less horrific camps, and were not intended to die. Many of them survived the war. Nonetheless, it's an extremely chilling phrase.
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Post by TheBo on Mar 18, 2005 10:51:02 GMT -5
Thanks, effendi. In case anyone is interested in a translation of the Nibelungenlied, here's one on a Berkeley U digital library site: sunsite3.berkeley.edu/OMACL/Nibelungenlied/Even if you don't read it all, it's nice to dip into this stuff once in awhile, and these online digital libraries are an excellent resource for that. I did not realize Eun-soo's book was based on the ESM story. Won't she be--I don't know-- mad? Bo
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