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Post by seven stars on Jun 14, 2007 10:18:01 GMT -5
Geese, where you been buddy?
Thanks for keeping this one going. I couldn't agree more. History is full of examples that testify to the fact that a stable home (family) is the foundation for a stable leader.
Chaos begets chaos after all. Take a look at Cao Cao's family and the fate of his kingdom of Wei. There's a prime instance of the father's miss steps being revisited upon his legacy.
It's good to hear from you.
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Post by geesehoward4ever on Oct 25, 2007 23:38:59 GMT -5
TEN MILLION YEARS LATER!!!! I reply again! LOL!
Ohhh man, I'm not doin too good at being consistent here. LOL! Seven Stars, I am currently writing a book entitled Lady Yoma, which features a fictional, sci-fi/drama, world where the two main characters are sworn sisters. One Japanese, one Korean, who fought in a huge war that ended up saving their empire, but dooming their mother.
So I've been busy writing. Even when I was on here way back when, I was writing another series of books that were meant to follow-up Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill movies. I completed that, and then decided not to pursue publication so I could establish myself off of my own merits. I also do houseparties and bar mitzvah's in my spare time!
Okay no, but!?!? LOL! Seriously though, I spend most of my time working and writing. I also stumbled across a celebrity catfight site last year where I decided to use it as a place to simply practice my writing. I became pretty popular in a hurry there, because I don't follow the normal mindless mess that is associated with "celebrity catfight writing". So if I'm not helping the site owner there try to pretend like he can see past his libido and write a story? Then I am handwriting something for Lady Yoma, or typing up a story idea for my own characters on dude's catfight site. Somewhere in-between there I find time to do these Japanese audio lessons, work! Plus try to keep track of current events so that I don't totally live in hermitage.
I post on the Wang Guhn forum, whenever I am not suffering from fits of fatigue because I'm also an insomniac. It does allow me to write 10x's more things than a normal person would, because they wouldn't have enough time in the day.
As for Tsao Tsao, my take on his legacy failing was because Tsao Pi did not take the golden opportunity to let Wu be destroyed when Sun Quan killed Guan Yu and then Liu Bei marched on Wu and began wiping them out. Tsao Tsao had become the center of authority, and I often wonder what would have happened if Guo Jia did not die due to illness, whether Tsao Tsao would have left Tsao Pi his position at all. Tsao Tsao constantly refused to remove the Emperor, knowing what it would mean, but Tsao Pi, even though his own sister was already married to the Emperor. Took it upon himself to do what his father knew couldn't be done in his reign.
Tsao Pi's treatment of Zhen Ji, was also another mistake on his part. Sima Yi, from what I have read, was someone that Tsao Tsao was somewhat concerned about, but what choices did he really have. Even Wang Guhn suffered the same problem, with Prince Mu. Neither of these men, during their bids for re-unification of their respective lands. Had time to be fathers to their children due to the constant state of unrest and instability. Ui-Min, Cho Won-Jong? These men were both highly UNSUITED, to sit on ANY seat of power. They were meant to lead the military, and that was the only seat of authority that they could correctly handle. Choi Chong-Hon (CHH) was similar to Tsao Tsao in his disposition that he would NOT remove the Emperor and rule himself, for fear of public backlash!
Both Tsao Tsao and CCH, had stabilized everything in the region, but they had also been the ones to basically render the long-standing-status quo rulers, impotent and unimportant. It is no different than Myung-Jung trying to last his reign and pass his throne to his son, so that it would come across as "legit". It was one reason why Myung-Jung didn't want to kill the Archfiend, because HE, according to AOW's the drama, was the sole reason why he could even be considered "legit", anyway. If you kill the man who took the bullet for you, how on earth can you even HOPE to draw men of quality and worth to you, when you would kill off your own heavy/stooge who allows you to sit there in the first place.
Cho Won-Jung's revolt, was more out of survival, which also killed his chances. It was a rushed mish-mash-of-madness! Better suited for another lifetime, but like Muby said to O-lan "Once a man has a taste of power, he can't stop." And Cho Won-Jung was more than a little drunk with power with his tiger belts and all of that. Meanwhile, he was not saavy enough to be able to control such power anyway. When he confronts Chung Kyun, bastard that he was. Chung Kyun talks about how Ui-Bang was on the way out anyway, why kill me over a man that's dead. General Cho, which I believe I mentioned lightyears ago. Had already stabbed Che Won in the back. This was a matter of loyalty at this point. If he slips up THIS TIME, what warrior is going to take him seriously when he was Ui-Bang's right hand man along with the Archfiend.
General Cho, had all rights to kill Chung and should have, because Ui-Bang's daughter was STILL the Prince's consort at that time. This makes Ui-Bang a defacto member of the Royal House. Never once did Chung Kyun produce ANYTHING, that said the Emperor gave him the OK, and even if he did!!?!? The Emperor was a pathetic FOOL! Who hid in a wine jar during the Revolt. If he would stab someone whom his own mother has entrusted her SISTER TO, if this fool would betray him, then who EXACTLY AM I!?!?
He should have taken Chung Kyun's head IMMEDIATELY!!!! Especially since the military still followed Ui-Bang, regardless of the political ploys that Chung Jung-Bu had tried. THIS, was a crucial point for Cho, and he blew it. In the end, the Weak Emperor AND the man who STAYED LOYAL to Ui-Bang, would kill him... which is just too ironic... because Ui-Min would also fall victim to the Weak Emperor and then CCH would learn from there mistakes, get rid of Du Kyung-Seung and then, GET RID of the Weak Emperor. He then proceeded to watch the royal house LIKE A HAWK! He knew that someone would try to nail him, and when they slipped up? HE GOT'EM! And that is the difference between CCH and Cho Won-Jung. CCH, was suited for power. He studied and learned and paid attention. Even Kyung Dae-Seung in the end, wasted his life because he would have made a GREAT EMPEROR!
But his loyalty and obligations and constant back-and-forth fears of what he might become!?!? Caused him to overestimate the Weak Emperors character, a fatal flow for Palidan-types, living in an age of unrest. As far as I am concerned, Tsao Wei's Xu Huang was what KDS never became. Xu, once he saw the fact that yes! Tsao Tsao was basically rendering the Emperor useless, BUT!?!? The people of Wei? Beyond what he was seeing right in front of him, he saw that the people were taken care of. Bandits were no longer roaming the countryside. Those within his territory, were expected as magistrates, etc. To perform their obligations or face the consequences of trying to exploit the people. So Xu sided with him and was crucial in his years of service to Tsao Tsao and Tsao Wei...
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Post by seven stars on Oct 26, 2007 9:53:22 GMT -5
Wow you've got a lot going on there Geese!
I didn't get through the entire post yet but just want to say that I am excited that there is still some enthusiasm for Emperor Wang Guhn and Age of Warriors on this site. Not to mention ROTK of course!
I'll check back. And hopefully won't be the only one.
-7S
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Post by TheBo on Oct 26, 2007 10:58:17 GMT -5
catfights? bar mitzvahs & houseparties? ROFL. You're a stitch, geese. Although I think you're not kidding about the catfight site...lol.
I had one question about your book. You say it's about: "...two main characters [who] are sworn sisters. One Japanese, one Korean, who fought in a huge war that ended up saving their empire, but dooming their mother."
Usually if one is a "sworn" sister, that means one is actually not related to the other person. But these two have the same mother? Just curious. (I guess you want people to be curious if you write a book, eh?)
Bo
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Post by seven stars on Oct 26, 2007 11:42:22 GMT -5
See Geese,
You can't pull anything over on The Bo (echoes) bo-bo-o-o-o
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Post by TheBo on Oct 26, 2007 13:32:07 GMT -5
See Geese, You can't pull anything over on The Bo (echoes) bo-bo-o-o-o Doof. I hope you are happy and well. LOL. Bo
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Post by geesehoward4ever on Oct 26, 2007 21:15:44 GMT -5
catfights? bar mitzvahs & houseparties? ROFL. You're a stitch, geese. Although I think you're not kidding about the catfight site...lol. I had one question about your book. You say it's about: "...two main characters [who] are sworn sisters. One Japanese, one Korean, who fought in a huge war that ended up saving their empire, but dooming their mother." Usually if one is a "sworn" sister, that means one is actually not related to the other person. But these two have the same mother? Just curious. (I guess you want people to be curious if you write a book, eh?) Bo Good Evening from Rainy Philadelphia! Let's get right to it! First of all, hello Seven Star and Bo. My post had a lotta stuff goin on in it! Chrissandra tries to remind me that I am typing on the internet and not in a face-to-face convo with people, but I still end up leaving huge block-text post from time-to-time. And yes, I am quite serious. I do actually write for a catfight celebrity site. It has actually become a problem for the owner because life was very simple for him before I arrived. People made up nonsense, he posted it, then complained that his site wasn't getting enough hits and all of that. I came along, wrote an actual story, he loved it, posted it. I wrote more stories, notice I didn't say I wrote catfights. My stories have that in them, but they are stories before they are senseless slop. So, he loved the responses and wanted all of his other readers to change their writings to match mine... Which I warned him was a big mistake. And he's been paying for it every since. He refuses to go back to the childish nonsense that he and others used to write, but he can't get past his own foolishness to write an actual story that would be taken seriously. Let's face it, the catfighting genre isn't exactly burning up the world of legit writing genre's! LOL! I have been accused of supposedly being someone like Anne Rice, among others, who is simply hiding behind a log-on to practice stories on his site. Flattered I may well be, but I'm just peon from Philadelphia who doesn't drool everytime he sees a woman... although knuckle-dragging may sometimes apply... And now for something you'll really like! Okay, Bo! Lady Yoma, is really a book that questions how do you get out of the shadow of an icon. Lady Yoma, is the sworn sister of Princess Yi of Koryo. Lady Yoma's mother, Lady Yoma Sayo, was their mother. Lady Yi Song-Yune (Princess Yi of Koryo) was sent to the Yoma Territory of Japan (which is actually Tsuchiura in real life) in order to learn how to utilize her arcane abilities. Prior to that, Lady Yoma had lost her husband to an attack that people accused her of actually doing, in order to become head of the Yoma Clan. At this point, this book does actually tie into the thread, but I'll explain that later. In regards to Lady Sayo becoming head of the Yoma Clan? This of course is impossible, since Japanese women of that universe cannot be Daimyo's. If memory serves, Feudal Japanese women couldn't be Daimyo's either, my memory is rusty so please don't quote, but I'm fairly certain that Female Daimyo's didn't exist in real life either. As for the book, the Yoma Clan in particular got their name from their ability to commune with the Realm of the Dead and with Spirits in General, they also mastered the ability to commune with nature. Either way, Lady Yi Song-Yune was sent to Japan to learn from Lady Yoma Sayo because she was a world reknown Mistress in the Mystic Arts. However, Song-Yune's father didn't know about the issues going on with Lady Yoma Sayo because the Imperial Court of Japan kept this information from other members of the Supreme Earth Council and out of the Japanese press, and especially ANY foreign press! Lady Yoma's daughter, Sayoko. Grew up in this enviornment with a mother under suspicion and bitter that her husband had been killed but instead of getting the support from the Imperial Court that they had an unknown otherdimensional force that wanted to attack them. She got the blame since the Terran Empire itself was a vast empire that spanned much of the galaxy in their own dimension, and they had gained dominion over a number of pocket dimensions, so it was unbelievable that someone had found a way to invade their dimensional space without being detected! Especially since the Yoma Territory sits DIRECTLY NORTH of the Rising Sun Palace of the Japanese Empire, and the Yoma are supposed to guard that territory in particular, from otherdimensional as well as interdimensional intruders! In the end, Lady Yoma Sayo is proven right and a war breaks out with an unknown empire from a neighboring dimension. Prior to this, a number of socio-political events were taking place that dragged Lady Yoma Sayo into them, against her will. She was also friends with the Empress of Japan, who had been trying to actually give ACTUAL AUTHORITY to the Seat of the Empress. Too many cooks spoil the broth and too many women trying to change too many traditions, means somebodies gotta go! LOL! In the end, Lady Sayo's daughter, Sayoko, grows up to be more of a soldier and arcane combatant, instead of having any real semblence of life beyond fighting and killing and being pushed and pressured by her mother, who is clearly driven by the whirlwind of events that have turned her life into a living hell. In the last battle against the Yokai, which is what Sayoko's mother named them. Lady Sayo sacrifices herself to create the Great Barrier, which effectively blocks off ANYONE from reaching their dimension, but also blocks them from traveling out. Sayoko then becomes default leader of the Yoma Clan, with not a clue how to run them, but she has also unwittingly gained popular public support which makes her a threat to the Imperial House of Japan. Lady Yi returns to Koryo, and everyone goes their separate ways. Lady Yoma and Princess Song-Yune are 16 when the Great Yokai War ended... the book opens 10 years later...
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Post by seven stars on Oct 29, 2007 8:09:11 GMT -5
This is awesome stuff Geese!
BTW you are hilarious.
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Post by geesehoward4ever on Oct 31, 2007 16:03:10 GMT -5
This is awesome stuff Geese! BTW you are hilarious. Happy Halloween, and THANK YA! I am hoping that if my book becomes famous and made into a movie, I wrote the character of Princess Song-Yune with Ryu Hyun-Kyung in mind to portray her. What I found interesting was whenever in AOW's, they would show the homes of these warriors, I always felt as though Ui-Bang had a very understanding and cool wife. I thought she was not as attractive as Ui-Min's wife, but she was clearly in love with her husband and she had actual sense, and THAT, is what made her a hot momma, literally, to me! A good woman is invaluable, and Ui-Bang didn't realize that he had a good woman at home. Cho Won-Jung's family was shown once I believe, after he had risen to power. But it was actually shown in detail when Archfiend came to see him in the latter eps, but they didn't show his wife or kids. So I don't really know much about his family as far as AOW's depiction of them...
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Post by Betz on Oct 31, 2007 17:28:03 GMT -5
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Post by TheBo on Nov 1, 2007 15:25:11 GMT -5
ROFL. I think I have to find a "quiet space" to read and digest all that stuff up there. I'll be responding...soon...soon...
;D
Bo
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Post by geesehoward4ever on Nov 1, 2007 17:22:54 GMT -5
Konnichi Wa, Betz-san!!!! Hahahahahah, ahem... I'm trying to look like my Japanese lessons are working, HA! Miserable so-and-so's. Either way, how ya doin sis. As you can see, I've been very busy with the new book, plus helping Stone Rage and his catfight site, plus trying to study Japanese, plus helping my mom get her properties back in order, plus workout and hit the treadmill... I been nursin a bad left foot... which was okay for a movie, none too cool for a personal experience. Anybody got any pics of Ryu Hyun-Kyung?!?!? I MUST HAVE MORE PICTURES OF HER!!!!
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Post by seven stars on Nov 2, 2007 8:06:51 GMT -5
Geese, you are relentless. I was still working my way through your earlier post.
Are you really Betsy's brother?
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Post by Betz on Nov 2, 2007 10:13:53 GMT -5
7S wrote: Are you really Betsy's brother? Yup...
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