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Post by seven stars on Oct 29, 2004 12:18:18 GMT -5
I don't know whether or not people are still checking the Tangents page at all, so if you're out there, I'd like to know your opinions.
Both of these are most known for supporting roles to greater warriors/generals. Choi Bu is no doubt the more loyal and virtuous of the two. But who is greater on the battlefield or hand to hand?
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Nov 2, 2004 22:32:50 GMT -5
dude Choi Bu did you see how fast KDS kick huh seung's @ss? plus he was overconfident. choi bu has more of a polished "i ain't got a THING to prove" attitude (in addition to his skills)
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Post by luvarchfiend on Nov 2, 2004 22:55:27 GMT -5
oh my gosh, how did i miss this? choi bu.....anyone who can fight with and for the archfiend, and bail his butt out of so much trouble gets my vote. also huh seung was not only overly-confident, he was in it for himself. choi bu was fighting for a cause....he was highly skilled and also did a lot of training of the army....now that man was a warrior.
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Post by seven stars on Nov 5, 2004 17:12:36 GMT -5
I'm not suprised that you are a Choi Bu fan VIB. You probably like Batman a great deal also huh? His association with the Archfiend lends him a certain credibility that Chief Huh lacked doesn't it?
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Post by mace_windu on Nov 5, 2004 17:27:37 GMT -5
I agree that Choi Bu would win easily, but then one of Huh Seung's cronies will sneak up behind him and throw a spear in his back! Just kidding, I do think they are both skilled but I agree that Choi Bu looks to have the edge both in skill and mental fortitude. Huh Seung seemed to bully those weaker than him and I think KDS threw the first match they fought 'cause they were friends.
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Post by luvarchfiend on Nov 5, 2004 17:59:49 GMT -5
perhaps choi bu's association with the archfiend does give him a bit of credibility seven stars...but he is a stand-alone extremely capable, skilled and smart warrior. and mace, shame on you for that spear in the back remark. but you are forgiven since you picked the right man as your choice. ;D oh, and btw seven stars, who is your choice? you mentioned choi bu being the more loyal and virtuous but not who you think is the greater of the two. please enlighten us since this was your query.
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Post by seven stars on Nov 8, 2004 12:23:49 GMT -5
Thanks for calling me to the carpet luvarchfiend! I would choose Choi Bu in a heartbeat. I agree with you wholeheartedly that he is a strong warrior no matter who he is associated with. His constitution is clearly stronger, and he is singleminded in his pursuits. These characteristics lend themselves to more focused training and, in the end, a more skillful and formidable warrior. (Not to mention the fact that he spent his entire life training in preparation for the Imperial Dragon). I say this while admitting the fact that I am jaded with contempt for Huh Seung. A warrior without loyalty is nothing more than a thug, and no thug could beg to contend with the likes of Choi Bu. I was disgusted by Huh Seung because I despise backstabbers. "They smile in your face, and all the time they wanna take your place" ;D
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Post by Eowyn on Nov 8, 2004 15:23:42 GMT -5
he is singleminded in his pursuits. I say this while admitting the fact that I am jaded with contempt for Huh Seung. A warrior without loyalty is nothing more than a thug, and no thug could beg to contend with the likes of Choi Bu. I think Huh Seung was very single-minded in his pursuit of the great cause, though. That's what all his machinations were about, including removing the Emperor for a stronger one (the Crown Prince). He was also always trying to win over KDS into taking some action. On his death, he begged KDS to realize the great cause. I think Huh Seung was very loyal to the great cause. Also, cannot a warrior be loyal and a thug? I remember Choi Bu acting very thuggish in one scene when the Archfeind was on a sort of rampage having people arrested and questioned, including that good General Jin. I remember Choi Bu shouted at or made as if to push, i think it was CCH's wife. I was surprised! This was at the time that Ui-min's control of the Imperial Court was getting out of hand. Just my two cents, seven stars, in defense of Chief Huh.
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Post by seven stars on Nov 8, 2004 17:18:47 GMT -5
Sorry Eowyn, I'm from Philly, and we have not yet seen that seen you described (Choi Bu).
I definitely see your point about Huh Seung. He was loyal to his cause, through his own means of course. I find those means despicable, but that is besides the point. I suppose he did show his own brand of loyalty, but Choi Bu's would probably be of the more widely accepted variety.
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Post by luvarchfiend on Nov 8, 2004 17:21:34 GMT -5
Thanks for calling me to the carpet luvarchfiend! I would choose Choi Bu in a heartbeat. I agree with you wholeheartedly that he is a strong warrior no matter who he is associated with. His constitution is clearly stronger, and he is singleminded in his pursuits. These characteristics lend themselves to more focused training and, in the end, a more skillful and formidable warrior. (Not to mention the fact that he spent his entire life training in preparation for the Imperial Dragon). I say this while admitting the fact that I am jaded with contempt for Huh Seung. A warrior without loyalty is nothing more than a thug, and no thug could beg to contend with the likes of Choi Bu. I was disgusted by Huh Seung because I despise backstabbers. "They smile in your face, and all the time they wanna take your place" ;D well you are quite welcome seven stars. ;D good choice. the part about choi bu having trained all his life for the imperial dragon is an excellent point and further strenghtens his clear superiority over huh seung. i love the quote. [quote author=eowyn link=board=aowtang&thread=1099070298&start=6#0 date=1099934629]I think Huh Seung was very single-minded in his pursuit of the great cause, though. That's what all his machinations were about, including removing the Emperor for a stronger one (the Crown Prince). He was also always trying to win over KDS into taking some action. On his death, he begged KDS to realize the great cause. I think Huh Seung was very loyal to the great cause. [/quote] eowyn you make a good case for huh seung having some positive aspect to his character. but i still think choi bu is the better, stronger, smarter, and overall better warrior of the two. and i do admit to having no objectivity concerning choi bu. ;D
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Post by Eowyn on Nov 9, 2004 7:13:24 GMT -5
Sorry Eowyn, I'm from Philly, and we have not yet seen that seen you described (Choi Bu). Oops, sorry seven stars, I hope I didn't spoil things for you too much then. My apologies.
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Post by generaldu on Nov 9, 2004 11:20:22 GMT -5
They were both great warriors.
I would give the loyalty and martial skills edge to Choi bu but the political skills and "focus" edge to Huh seung.
An important character point that we overlook about Huh seung is that he spared Soran's life during an attack on her village and later, when she was in KDS's household, he made a rather gentlemanly play for her affections. (Allowing for the fact that he was committed to killing her master.)
Soran refused his entreaty and stayed loyal to KDS but we can only speculate on how Huh seung and Soran would have fared as a couple. It's safe to say they shouldn't have had any trouble keeping their kids in line.
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Post by Eowyn on Nov 9, 2004 13:39:58 GMT -5
That's right, generaldu. I'll always remember that scene between Chief Huh and Soran. He used to always stare at her too - he was obsessed!
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Post by seven stars on Nov 10, 2004 16:10:28 GMT -5
By the way VIB, I did not intend any offense in my response post to you, I hope there was none taken! Oops, sorry seven stars, I hope I didn't spoil things for you too much then. My apologies. No problem Eowyn, I've been hanging around this website long enough that I already have an idea about what I have not yet seen. ... and I wanted to ask you if you are in the Huh Seung fanclub? I noticed you were supportive when Master Crabby alluded to an interest in the Chief's beard. (I wish we had a smiley face with a big beard right now! Haha). That's right, generaldu. I'll always remember that scene between Chief Huh and Soran. He used to always stare at her too - he was obsessed! Hmm..., Huh Seung and Soran. It's tough to ponder what might have been. Tough kids though, huh Generaldu. They were both great warriors. I would give the loyalty and martial skills edge to Choi bu but the political skills and "focus" edge to Huh seung. An important character point that we overlook about Huh seung is that he spared Soran's life during an attack on her village and later, when she was in KDS's household, he made a rather gentlemanly play for her affections. (Allowing for the fact that he was committed to killing her master.) Soran refused his entreaty and stayed loyal to KDS but we can only speculate on how Huh seung and Soran would have fared as a couple. It's safe to say they shouldn't have had any trouble keeping their kids in line. Perhaps the largest discrepancy between these two warriors is just as Generaldu said. Huh's political mindset, and Choi Bu's lack there of could possibly indicate that Huh Seung had a greater understanding of the big picture, with regard to the times that they lived in. I'm not buying the character point though. It's not hard for a warrior to spare a beautiful spirited young woman. This could just as easily have been animal attraction, as opposed to true mercy. The real proof would have been compassion for some middle of the road, care package of a peasant, male or female. That would stand as a credit to Huh Seung's virtue.
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Post by Eowyn on Nov 10, 2004 20:09:46 GMT -5
... and I wanted to ask you if you are in the Huh Seung fanclub? lol, that's funny, seven stars! ;D I seem to be in the despicable warriors fan club. One can suspect so from my title: Defender of CCH!
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