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Post by TheIceTiger on Jun 21, 2004 18:28:45 GMT -5
I just dont think that KDS can be a good emperor. He have a master mind and good in making speech but i dont think he can make a decsion when it comes to sarcifice the ppl for something more.Like as if they're fighting a war and need more food and supply, i dont think he would like raise tax on the ppl. Also his policy of 0% curruption just won't work and would never exist. But he is perfect for an imperial guardian. But i guess he is the best choice among all these ppl, but as for archfiend, even though he lacks the intellgent , he has/had the heart to save the ppl. Also his advantage over KDS is that he has more intellgent ppl giving him advice and guidence. Well, not anymore but he would had been the perfect choice if all those other things didnt happen =/
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Post by Chung Kyun on Jun 21, 2004 18:36:14 GMT -5
I just dont think that KDS can be a good emperor. He have a master mind and good in making speech but i dont think he can make a decsion when it comes to sarcifice the ppl for something more.Like as if they're fighting a war and need more food and supply, i dont think he would like raise tax on the ppl. Also his policy of 0% curruption just won't work and would never exist. But he is perfect for an imperial guardian. But i guess he is the best choice among all these ppl, but as for archfiend, even though he lacks the intellgent , he has/had the heart to save the ppl. Also his advantage over KDS is that he has more intellgent ppl giving him advice and guidence. Well, not anymore but he would had been the perfect choice if all those other things didnt happen =/ yeah but look at his sons not good to become emperor, so say bye to his dynasty. if the arcfiend became an emperor, there would be rebellions like crazy, if he didn't change his act. now it wouldn't matter if he was good, his sons would distory his dynasty. lol
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Post by TheIceTiger on Jun 21, 2004 18:39:58 GMT -5
yea but his eldest son is a good person. Even though he is not really his son but i think archfiend knows that the dynasty would be better off in his hands than his brothers.
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Post by Chung Kyun on Jun 21, 2004 18:46:14 GMT -5
yea but his eldest son is a good person. Even though he is not really his son but i think archfiend knows that the dynasty would be better off in his hands than his brothers. i see no chance on yi ji-soon becomeing an emperor. his brothers would kill him on the day ui-min dies. if not then a rebellion vs brothers.
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Post by Eowyn on Jun 22, 2004 5:27:52 GMT -5
KDS of course, for me! Except setting up a Dynasty always scares me, because somewhere down the line one of the SON OFs will usually end up being demented, or unwise, or tyrannical. Better if KDS would hand pick his succesor and so forth and so on.
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Post by mikey on Jun 22, 2004 19:13:57 GMT -5
With some reluctance, I also chose Kyung Dae-seung.
I hesitate because (as we all know) KDS never really wanted the job. I think there’s something positive to be said about a “reluctant leader;” someone who only takes power at the desperate urgings of honorable people, and then relinquishes that power when their work is done (we might recall our own George Washington once saying something like: “Anybody who WANTS to be president is someone who shouldn’t be trusted with the job!”).
So, KDS would probably see the task of being emperor as a short-term project – sit on the throne just long enough to clean up the mess, and then retire off into the sunset with the millions of grateful peasants cheering him as he leaves.
Unfortunately, it’s a sure bet that the moment he leaves the emperor’s throne, ruthless men would seize their opportunity and Koryo would immediately start heading downhill again. Sorry, KDS - but being a just and righteous emperor is a LIFETIME job! Put up, or shut up, dude.
However, the *ghost* of KDS (who confronted Duduel) was another story altogether. Saying that he would have taken the throne himself, had he known what was in store for Koryo under the current emperor, perhaps makes him the ideal candidate.
Too bad, by this time, he was already dead!
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Post by luvarchfiend on Jun 22, 2004 19:20:09 GMT -5
hindsight is 20/20, even after you are dead, or perhaps more so after you are dead. in all honesty, i think he would have made a great leader for the people but i also think the job might have killed him. he just didn't seem to have the stomach for it, but the people would have benefited greatly from his rule, had he stayed the course, or cause, in this instance.
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Post by Eowyn on Jun 23, 2004 5:26:44 GMT -5
Yeah, that all could be, Mikey - nice analysis. KDS would be like Cincinnatus who leaves off his plow to save Rome and when all is done and finished he goes back to being the simple farmer. But if he rules for that short time or a lifetime he may bring about a Golden Age of Koryo. But when his rule ends then the great age might... go up in smoke!
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Post by Chung Kyun on Jun 23, 2004 13:10:59 GMT -5
Yeah, that all could be, Mikey - nice analysis. KDS would be like Cincinnatus who leaves off his plow to save Rome and when all is done and finished he goes back to being the simple farmer. But if he rules for that short time or a lifetime he may bring about a Golden Age of Koryo. But when his rule ends then the great age might... go up in smoke! why would he leave his own dynasty? he knows that if he leaves, it will be the same as old koryo. if he was smart he wouldn't leave. now he he feels he is becomeing as tyrant of a ruler, then he might leave the dynasty and put one of his friends or somebody smart to rule. he was young so he had alot of years to rule.
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Post by TheIceTiger on Jun 23, 2004 14:32:54 GMT -5
hmm i duno, so many ppl are good ppl when when they reach the throne, they become a totally different person. If that ghost of KDS came back somehow, even if he takes the throne, how would we know that he didnt changed. Maybe his perspective on power struggle would be different. Emperor spot isnt really a job that KDS can handle. Sometimes emperor have to be brutal inorder to bring order among ppl. Also we can all see that crupption still runs during his reign, it runs right under his feet where Dobang itself becomes a crupputed place. Who knows what 'll happen if he becomes emperor. Remember, an emperor have to worry about the whole country, not just the imperial city. That job would be too stressful for KDS and from the looks of it, he would probably die of a stroke 2 weeks after he took the throne. And i know what'll be the first thing he do when he becomes emperor, and thats to hunt down the archfiend. His hatred had clouded his mind, like master duedul said, he still have a warrior blood in him. Remember the reason that master dudeul gave to KDS about why he helped the archfiend survive after the failure of the uprising? Dudeul knows that KDS can also change if he have abousule power.
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Post by TheIceTiger on Jun 23, 2004 14:36:29 GMT -5
o u know who i think should be emperor? Master dudeul, who knows better about the suffering of the ppl. Who gave all those good advice to the KDS and the archfiend. Thats right, he should get the job! They dun call him master for nothin ;D
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Post by luvarchfiend on Jun 23, 2004 17:16:05 GMT -5
o u know who i think should be emperor? Master dudeul, who knows better about the suffering of the ppl. Who gave all those good advice to the KDS and the archfiend. Thats right, he should get the job! They dun call him master for nothin ;D master of betrayal. when the going gets tough, the master gets going in the other direction. guess i am not one of his biggest fans.
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Post by Chung Kyun on Jun 23, 2004 18:00:08 GMT -5
master of betrayal. when the going gets tough, the master gets going in the other direction. guess i am not one of his biggest fans. ok i know its betrayl f ou leave the person, but ui-min was acting to crazy to control, he saw a young man named kyung cry for the people and was helping the help, just as the imperial dragon was suppose to do. master dudeul is only init for the people he thought ui-min would had done it, but instead took way to long to help, so he went to the kid. now he died early and duduel was still confused on who to help arcfiend or kyung. like kim sami sadi e never betrayed the imperial dragon of kaelim, because the imperial dragon of kaelim is a person who saved the people and is good to them and would overthrow the koryo dynasty. he got sick of waiting for him and he was ging to attack the imperial city. i know arcfiend fans get angry when people say the truth but ui-min has so many freaking years to help the people and overthrow the damn koryo dynasty. he wasted his time on trying to be a merit subject instead of being emperor. some times i don't get aow, they made this kaelim thing, but the imperial dragon never did anything to become it. this makes me sad so much for all that talk about bringing back shilla.
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Post by luvarchfiend on Jun 23, 2004 18:06:00 GMT -5
the archfiend lacked the confidence in himself, and never believed HE was the real imperial dragon, not in his heart. he needed constant reassurance and help and guidance. the master gave up on him. after planting the seeds, he didn't tend to the garden and the weeds took over.
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Post by Chung Kyun on Jun 23, 2004 18:15:56 GMT -5
the archfiend lacked the confidence in himself, and never believed HE was the real imperial dragon, not in his heart. he needed constant reassurance and help and guidance. the master gave up on him. after planting the seeds, he didn't tend to the garden and the weeds took over. come on, he had like 4 people telling him to help the people and bring shilla when he was in sarabul and mt mita. ui-min aleast for afavor to choi bu should had overthrone the koryo dynasty. choi killed his own little brother. even if ui-in didn't feel he couldn't , then do it for his right hand man that lost his brother for him. master duduel went to ui-min because his father told him about all this shilla history thing and said it was uimin who was the future imperial dragon of kaelim. thats why he kept telling ui-min to do it. in real life duduel gave up on him because it was to late to help him. he was old and still bad, why keep trying. now duduel also could had been in ui-min mind always fighing himself for being bad. then his own mind gave up on him and he says the toy talked to him.
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