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Post by TheBo on May 18, 2004 19:12:56 GMT -5
My suspicion was that she was really intending to poison him, but that's probably just because I'm relatively new to the series and don't know the characters as well as most people here. Ho (no, I'm not calling you a name gettawayfrom Sir MIN!), if that's the sort of mindset you think these people have, you have a superior knowledge of what they are capable of doing. I haven't watched today's ep yet (boy has got tv watching Ghostbusters AGAIN) but I'll bet you're close to what's what. Bo
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Post by Soju on May 18, 2004 23:01:47 GMT -5
While I didn't watch all of the Tuesday AM showing (I just FFed to where the commercials were on Saturday, and watched 'til it got familliar again), I don't think anything new was shown about this.
I agreee with what I think Catalpa was saying. The impression I got was the Keum-young gave Col/pharmacist Min the meal so that she could have closure, and now will feel no remorse for turning him and Jang-geum over to the wolves.
I doubt she would actually be able to let it go, though. Even after all these years, she remains visibly conflicted about the situation she is in. She has shown that she respects JG, and I think would still like to be her friend, except for the whole Choi family corruption thing.
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Post by Albie on May 19, 2004 11:57:50 GMT -5
I agree with Soju about the meal being closure, but I doubt that young lady choi wants to be friends with JG. It alway appeared to me that there was a rivalry and if it isn't Col Min, it is food, power, respect, etc. I don't think they'll ever be friends but lady choi might respect JG. So I can't say I know what will happen with young Lady Choi. I hope she does repent her mean ways.
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Post by TheBo on May 19, 2004 12:09:18 GMT -5
I watched it last night and again this morning, and I have to agree with Soju. Keum-young clearly was saying, "I loved you all these years, I've decided to cut it out of my heart, but I want to give one meal to a man who is not the king (someone I am required to "love") before I let go of all that. Oh, and by the way, I want you to feel guilty about it--really, really guilty."
I don't think Min thought she was going to off herself. I think that's just our American interpretation of "end it all" or "end this agony"--she's clearly talking about a process of mind/self-control. He would certainly have made more of an effort to find her (and perhaps they would have shown him "remembering" what she said) if he thought that she meant suicide. He may have meant to comfort her in some way, or try to convince her to change her ways.
I think Lucy's right that the Chois were capable of poisoning him, but I think that's not what was happening here. It was a true, heartfelt (for her) gift of food, the best thing she had to offer.
I think even if JG and KY were the same class as Min, free to marry him, he'd choose JG. Although she is smart, JG always needs rescuing, and he responds to that. KY does not require to be rescued; she's capable and takes care of problems herself. Min would always choose JG, it has nothing to do with whether KY is evil.
As a side note, I am always amused by how people "hide" on the Korean soaps. She just steps behind a wall? Remember the pregnant Ja-young in Yellow Hankie standing next to a low wall in full sight of her boyfriend, with her back turned, "hiding" for hours? LOL.
Bo
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Post by jacques on May 19, 2004 12:35:17 GMT -5
I agree with Soju about the meal being closure, but I doubt that young lady choi wants to be friends with JG. It alway appeared to me that there was a rivalry and if it isn't Col Min, it is food, power, respect, etc. I don't think they'll ever be friends but lady choi might respect JG. So I can't say I know what will happen with young Lady Choi. I hope she does repent her mean ways. (Holding up a picture of the elder Lady Choi and tearing it to bits): FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY!! ;D
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Post by Lucy on May 19, 2004 12:55:19 GMT -5
But they did! no?
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Post by FlowerLady on May 19, 2004 16:20:59 GMT -5
Lucy, I had the same inkling you did about Lady Choi Jr. attempting to feed Colonel Min something poisonous, too. (I've been watching the series almost from the very beginning.) Maybe it was because she told him to go ahead and eat, but she wasn't even sipping the tea. Also, no doubt, Lady Choi Jr. is REALLY furious to discover that JG and Col. Min were together for 15 days "fighting the plague" together, as well as being together on Jeju Island when JG was banished there as a slave. I'm probably wrong, but why did Lady Choi Jr. decide to throw down her cards? Things are currently sticky for JG after sneaking out the King's medical records, so why didn't she ride it out to see how JG's current dilemna pans out first? As far as the poisoning thought, maybe we had thought that because there have been so many deliberate poisonings, improper foods served intentionally, etc. so far. Oh, well, I love this drama and am bracing myself for the SSAADD day when the last episode airs!!!!
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Post by TheBo on May 19, 2004 16:40:08 GMT -5
No, Lucy, he did not have that "thoughtful moment" where he "remembers" something (which we, the audience, see a replay of or re-hear the words spoken)--he just looked like he wanted to say something more and went back for a moment. I really think the idea that she was poisoning him is WAY off base. I didn't see any intimation of that. This was her last gift to him (and to herself) before she let go. Also, it is not unusual (in this dramatic world) for one person to eat while the other looks on--everyone does that. They bring you a table, you eat, they watch you. I could name numerous examples, but I don't want to. Nyah. Bo (No, if you think about it, you'll think of them yourself.)
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Post by jacques on May 19, 2004 17:01:24 GMT -5
No, Lucy, he did not have that "thoughtful moment" where he "remembers" something (which we, the audience, see a replay of or re-hear the words spoken)--he just looked like he wanted to say something more and went back for a moment. I really think the idea that she was poisoning him is WAY off base. I didn't see any intimation of that. This was her last gift to him (and to herself) before she let go. Also, it is not unusual (in this dramatic world) for one person to eat while the other looks on--everyone does that. They bring you a table, you eat, they watch you. I could name numerous examples, but I don't want to. Nyah. Bo (No, if you think about it, you'll think of them yourself.) I agree. Keum-young is but a witch-in-training to the elder Lady Choi. She doesn't have the guts to poison nobody just yet. To her credit, she may actually have some semblance of human feelings as opposed to the older Chois who are too old to quit! ;D Ultimately, she too is a victim that puts young girls at the hands of these rivaling Imperial Attendants, putting them smack in the eye of the palace political storm.
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Post by Lucy on May 19, 2004 17:44:35 GMT -5
My original statement. No need to get excited, now. We shall see on Friday what happens--I can wait till then.
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Post by jacques on May 19, 2004 17:49:02 GMT -5
My original statement. No need to get excited, now. We shall see on Friday what happens--I can wait till then. ...And so a drama addict is born... ;D
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Post by Queenfan on May 19, 2004 21:38:59 GMT -5
Confused!
I reread everything that was stated here. I rewinded to the part where Lady Choi offers the dinner to Sir Min. My first impression was that she did want to poison him. I know she didn't. She did run off and wanted to kill herself (or so I think). Sir Min came after her, but afterwards did she really kill herself? Otherwise, i can't wait until Friday. (BTW-What episode number was this?)
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Post by Soju on May 19, 2004 23:45:51 GMT -5
I know that Keum-yonug has put Jang-geum though a lot, but I keep seeing this glimmer of decency buried in her. Maybe it's just delusional on my part, but I hope she redeems herself eventually. Implicating her aunt, Sir Choi, Sir Oh, Young-roh, Eul-eh, the Head Physician, et al. in the corruption scandal would do that just fine, thank you.
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Post by jacques on May 20, 2004 1:37:30 GMT -5
I know that Keum-yonug has put Jang-geum though a lot, but I keep seeing this glimmer of decency buried in her. Maybe it's just delusional on my part, but I hope she redeems herself eventually. Implicating her aunt, Sir Choi, Sir Oh, Young-roh, Eul-eh, the Head Physician, et al. in the corruption scandal would do that just fine, thank you. Aherm! Have we been peekng on the MBC website again?...lol ;D
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Post by TheBo on May 20, 2004 7:28:03 GMT -5
Confused! I reread everything that was stated here. I rewinded to the part where Lady Choi offers the dinner to Sir Min. My first impression was that she did want to poison him. I know she didn't. She did run off and wanted to kill herself (or so I think). Sir Min came after her, but afterwards did she really kill herself? Otherwise, i can't wait until Friday. (BTW-What episode number was this?) Probably no one remembers the episode number, Queenfan. Don't you have it at the beginning of your tape? She probably didn't kill herself before she went to visit Lady Choi to discuss getting rid of them, and later to talk about the eunuch situation. Yep, not dead. Not dead yet. (Just teasing you.) Bo PS - Loooooooooooocey--my poisonous comments were not directed only at YOU, but part of the general discussion. You know Min-jae and I are your fan club.
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