Blood, sweat and tears

[Lucy]

I believe that a man (or woman) who loves someone else with a deep passion (assuming that applies to HR/HK), whose existence...or it seems, whose reason for living, stems from maintaining a close, meaningful relationship with his beloved, would not be expected to think objectively or rationally, as the case may be.....Take away what is most important in his life, and he may lose a lot more...like his will to live......
Perhaps it might be difficult to fully understand...unless one has been in a similar situation...or personally knows someone who has......

It's a little hard for me to respect someone who has never shown much character and whose continued existence seems to rely solely on being close to one person in particular. I ask myself, where are his values, that he thinks he's going to die without her? Yes, I think love is important, but, to me, Hyun-gyu is simply obsessed and immature. He doesn't care if he destroys her in his pursuit of her; he just wants her, and that's all he knows. She might love him, but she's trying to get away from him for the good of all concerned. Frankly, if I were in Hye-ran's place, I'd be frightened. I think obsessive love is overrated and overemphasized in our culture, and it's just hard for me to believe that we are supposed to be rooting for HK and HR. Now, if the problems with their respective families were to go away, I'd be very glad to see them get back together. But not at any cost, no.

[jacques]

Lucy said:

It's a little hard for me to respect someone who has never shown much character and whose continued existence seems to rely solely on being close to one person in particular. I ask himself, where are his values, that he thinks he's going to die without her? Yes, I think love is important, but, to me, Hyun-gyu is simply obsessed and immature. He doesn't care if he destroys her in his pursuit of her; he just wants her, and that's all he knows. She might love him, but she's trying to get away from him for the good of all concerned. Frankly, if I were in Hye-ran's place, I'd be frightened. I think obsessive love is overrated and overemphasized in our culture, and it's just hard for me to believe that we are supposed to be rooting for HK and HR. Now, if the problems with their respective families were to go away, I'd be very glad to see them get back together. But not at any cost, no.

Yeah, shades of Romeo and Juliet...oh wait! Hold on now, this IS Romeo and Juliet (21st century Korean drama-style) ;D

[Lucy]

Yeah, shades of Romeo and Juliet...oh wait! Hold on now, this IS Romeo and Juliet (21st century Korean drama-style)

A new Korean movie: "William Shakespeare's Hyun-gyu and Hye-ran"!

Act I, Scene i:
Two houses, both alike in dignity*, in fair Seoul where we lay our scene . . .

*well, one is a little more dignified than the other. The Ohs don't make their kimchi in a plastic bowl in the backyard.

[jacques]

Lucy said:

A new Korean movie: "William Shakespeare's Hyun-gyu and Hye-ran"!

Act I, Scene i:
Two houses, both alike in dignity*, in fair Seoul where we lay our scene . . .

*well, one is a little more dignified than the other. The Ohs don't make their kimchi in a plastic bowl in the backyard.

lol!!! Never in a million years would Koreans think that kimchi the great unifier would become kimchi the great divider! ;D

[Lucy]

I guess it takes a Westerner--like me and Shakespeare--to turn something wonderful into an occasion for bloodshed! ;D

[gutierrezjoseph1]

I Belive the Reason Hye Rans and Hk love is so strong, because what else do they have except love in theres lives. When one doesnt recieve the fair amount of love of ones family, they go else where. In the case of Hk, he may be rich in wealth, but thats all he has, money cant buy love or happiness and hk sees that.

Hye Ran lives a simple life, which on the out side looks poor to us, but she only needs a simple life and someone to really stand by her side in good times and bad.

These two people need to really focus on what they really want and I don't think its love they need, i think it goes deeper then that.

[greatcait]

jacques said:

And think about it (as someone during Emperor Wang Gun's time would say--This is Heaven's doing! ;D), his only connection with his dearly-departed mother is this girl who is the daughter of the man who ran her over! Karmic justice, probably. Divine consolation, I think so.

I've been thinking the SAME THING! like 2 wrongs making everything right.

Lucy- Could be you're on to something too. THink about all those older couples that after one dies the other one goes soon after. Happened to parents of an older friend. Mom & Dad were lates 70s. Dad had a massive heart attack & less than 6mos. she was gone too. They'd been together since they were in high school. True Love

Question- just how old do you have to be in Korea before you are an "adult", you know make your own decisions, like who you'd like to marry, where to live, not having all your family tell you what to do & actually have to do it?

[Lucy]

Question- just how old do you have to be in Korea before you are an "adult", you know make your own decisions, like who you'd like to marry, where to live, not having all your family tell you what to do & actually have to do it?

I have read that in Korea, you are not really considered an adult until you get married. Of course, this has been changing in the last few years, but I believe it's still very much a part of the culture. I know that our OMR soap opera reflects a very conservative view, but look at Soon-ok. She is pushing 40 and is still treated like a child, even with all her life experience, and it's not only because she's a ditz, but because she's unmarried.

[galacticchick]

TheBo said:

Hah! Prince! I knew it seemed vaguely familiar.
Bo

Hooray for you, Bo! You can pick one of these lovely prizes:

Limited edition Tickle me Hye-sung doll or a Keumja approved rice cooker.

I think we are getting near the end of the drama already. The way I can tell is when I can't stand to see some of the main characters anymore, but tune in anyway. How much longer can we stare at HK sitting/lying in his bed?

[jacques]

galacticchick said:

Hooray for you, Bo! You can pick one of these lovely prizes:

Limited edition Tickle me Hye-sung doll or a Keumja approved rice cooker.

I think we are getting near the end of the drama already. The way I can tell is when I can't stand to see some of the main characters anymore, but tune in anyway. How much longer can we stare at HK sitting/lying in his bed?

LOL!!! Hye-Sung does look like that old teddy bear you've had since you were 6 (especially with THAT haircut). Probably why his wife fancied him in the first place. ;D

As for Keum-ja. Don't let nobody let that lady near the pressure cooker and a brand new set of ginzu knives, lol. The thing about being a doormat for too long is that all the cr*p piled on top of you eventually self-combusts (Newton's law of gases or something ;D)!

As far as the show getting boring...time to spice things up already! I know there is a waiting list of ladies (see the last four posts of the "a question" thread) who can't wait to rip Min-Jae's sailor moon stripper shirt off his chest! I personally wouldn't mind seeing Hye Ran in a bikini by the water now that we've established she's in Busan ;D.