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Post by ajk on Dec 25, 2021 14:20:27 GMT -5
...should be up on Kocowa within a few hours.
Looks like we have 24 hours to watch the episodes as non-paying members (with ads) until they get locked up for paid subscriptions only. At least I think that's how it works.
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episode 5
Dec 26, 2021 1:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by π°π’ππ«πͺππ π©ππ¦π― on Dec 26, 2021 1:28:37 GMT -5
I was hoping for land reform but not this time lol Gongyang and Poeun are being a bit dense here.
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Post by ajk on Dec 26, 2021 2:43:38 GMT -5
βFather, how can you say such a thing? It will never happen among our brothers.β Seriously? Dude, he just saw the two of you doing that very thing! What a sorry opening, makes Bangwon look like an idiot.
It did get better after that, though. Probably the best episode of the five so far--not great but it was okay. By now itβs clear that weβre getting a character drama, not as much of a story drama. Theyβre trying to make it like a movie, the way itβs shotβwhich is good, the production quality has been strong, and the musicβwhich is disappointingly conventional. The land reform thing, that would be too much of a distraction from the character drama so we won't be getting much of that sort of stuff, unfortunately.Β But what they're doing as a character drama, it's not bad and some of it has been good or at least promising.
Itβs early but I like what theyβre doing with Consort Jeongβolder woman, the voice of reason and experience in the kingβs ear, good work by the actress.
And the guy playing Bangwon is holding up well tooβitβs early but his impulsiveness and then the puppy-dog guilt in his face, some good work there.
OK you may behead Byeon Anyeol...βWe are much obliged, Your Majesty.β Made me laugh.
Here was the closest look weβve ever gotten at the mysterious wood-posts-on-legs torture. Apparently the idea is simply that it hurts like heck to do that...Iβve never tried it so maybe it does! It must, for us to see it so often. Maybe thereβs also something about it keeping the upper body unscathed so that people can still function long enough to speak and think and confess.
βI will raise my husband to be a better man. To be a great man.βΒ Another promising start, Mrs. Bangwon thinking she's going to be a kingmaker.
The latest KHD veteran to show up is Bangwonβs tutor, the guy who did the amazing Hideyoshi in Jingbirok.
One useful clarification was that Bangwonβs job is to deliver royal orders. His title was Assistant Right Transmitter, had no idea what that means.
βWhat makes you think that I am alone?β And the door opens and dozens of scholars come pouring out...Kingdom style, and the intense music with the turbulent bass. That was absurdly over-staged.
Jeong Dojeon nearly drowns and Bangwon pulls him out. βWhat are you doing here?β Youβre such a brilliant scholar and you havenβt figured that out? He has to be EVERYWHERE. Ugh! And this is after being the one in front of the king. They need to stop this ASAP. Already itβs becoming almost a running joke.
Still nothing so far to sell this series over Jeong Dojeon. But at least this episode was a step up.
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Post by truth on Dec 26, 2021 9:33:31 GMT -5
Itβs early but I like what theyβre doing with Consort Jeongβolder woman, the voice of reason and experience in the kingβs ear, good work by the actress. Consort Jeong played by older woman is inaccurate. She was around 39 years old at the time. Actress who played her in Jeong Dojeon is more accurate to history. OK you may behead Byeon Anbeol...βWe are much obliged, Your Majesty.β Made me laugh. His name is Byeon Anyeol, not beol. Subtitle error if that's what it said. Here was the closest look weβve ever gotten at the mysterious wood-posts-on-legs torture. Fun fact: actor who playes Kwon Geun in this scene played Kwon Yul in Jingbirok and IYSS. Kwon Yul is Kwon Geun's direct descendant. The latest KHD veteran to show up is Bangwonβs tutor, the guy who did the amazing Hideyoshi in Jingbirok. He is not just a tutor. He is also Bangwon's father-in-law. Jeong Dojeon nearly drowns and Bangwon pulls him out. This part is, of course, fiction. Jeong Dojeon never tried to swim across the river during heavy rain. Heavy rain around this time did happen though and is recorded in history.
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Post by ajk on Dec 26, 2021 17:09:42 GMT -5
And there's the danger when you start messing around to try to put Bangwon everywhere. JD is supposed to be such a brilliant mind but he almost gets himself drowned because of foolish impulsiveness. The whole thing was silly.
Thanks for flagging the typo, it's fixed. I do try to catch them all beforehand but a few inevitably get through. Also corrected the character roster on Mr. Min; did not recognize the guy the first time we saw him and he has a different title now. Plus I could swear that the Hangul notation on the screen says Choi but the first time there was English and it says Je. There are things about these Romanizations that I still do not understand.
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Post by sageuk on Dec 26, 2021 18:33:33 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Jeong Dojeon come across as even more ruthless in getting the people opposing Yi Seonggye purged than in JDJ?
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Post by ajk on Dec 26, 2021 20:00:50 GMT -5
Yes he does...and your point is proven in the next episode, that's all I'll say here.
Apparently for the sake of the family character drama they're willing to reduce other characters. JD and JM were both much more interesting in the JD series...yeah JD is the title character but these two guys are so important that you can't short-change them.
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Post by mugwump on Dec 28, 2021 13:01:05 GMT -5
"Countless people follow Your Majesty outside the palace". Yeah, they all have Twitter and Facebook accounts.
The actor playing Bang Won's father in law - I am so used to seeing him play slimeballs, can't get over the transformation. Of course there's still time for him to turn. I have to think about what I remember from GKS.
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Post by π°π’ππ«πͺππ π©ππ¦π― on Dec 28, 2021 20:15:02 GMT -5
Does Min Je survive long enough to reach GKS?
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Post by mugwump on Dec 29, 2021 7:31:16 GMT -5
Does Min Je survive long enough to reach GKS? I think so. I do remember how much the queen resented Taejong for having her father and brothers killed. And we were shown a flashback of the Crown Prince, Sejong's oldest brother, being rescued and protected as a child by his uncles during the time when Bang Won was fighting for power with his brothers, and he was very close to them. So the flashback may have been shown at the time of their deaths. Whew! So many brothers to keep track of. And of course later on, Taejong pressured Sejong to have his wife's father killed too.
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Post by ajk on Dec 30, 2021 23:39:54 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't get back here sooner; some health stuff in the family kept me busy.
Min did not appear in GKS but did appear in Jeong Dojeon beginnng in episode 41. Not sure if he was killed along with his sons; the GKS roster mentions his sons being executed but not him...but occasionally I do forget something so that could be incomplete. (Yeah it's hard to even accept the guy in a neutral role after the previous characters he's played!)
Sean if you look in the Off Air category you'll find boards for both GKS and JD from when those shows originally aired. I did character rosters for both shows, and I also did detailed summaries of every episode. This was before episodes were widely available for streaming so I did the summaries to keep track of details. Now we can just pull up a previous episode to check things so I don't bother with the extra work.
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Post by truth on Dec 30, 2021 23:57:06 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't get back here sooner; some health stuff in the family kept me busy. Min did not appear in GKS but did appear in Jeong Dojeon beginnng in episode 41. Not sure if he was killed along with his sons; Min Je was not killed along with his sons. He died of illness in 1408. His sons got killed 2 years after his death.
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