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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Oct 20, 2021 2:45:34 GMT -5
This won't be as detailed as the previous 6 posts unfortunately, but i got episode counts, plot and some music.
Season 7: Celestial Flower (October 4th 1976~March 18th 1977) 143 episodes, early 19th century, during the Andong Kim's height of power. Supposedly Lee Deok Hwa's debut. Based on synopses for the first 10 episodes or so: a certain Lord Choi, who may or may not possess a secret order from the Crown Prince, falls ill. Kim Jo Geun steals the secret order.
Season 8: Legend of Lady Heo (March 20th 1977~August 26th 1977) 138 episodes, time period unclear. A noblewoman tries to get back her fortune after her husband steals it all and runs off to Pyeongyang with a conman. Season 9: Rain, Wind and the Cold Dew (August 28th 1977~March 17th 1978) 174 episodes, Gojong's reign. Love and marriage among the noble class. Someone gets selected as Crown Princess I think. Also some pictures!! And a theme song - Rain, Wind and the Cold Dew by Seonwoo Hyegyeong:
Season 10: Fifteen Nights (March 19th 1978~July 8th 1978) 97 episodes, 12th year of King Cheoljong. Action series adapted from 1969 martial arts movie " Fifteen Nights of Revenge". Based on the first ten episodes: A thief named Heuk Du Seong becomes infamous in the Capital after declaring fifteen nights of revenge against Kim Jwa Geun. Jo Deok Chun is on the side of the law and holds Heuk Du Seong as his enemy. He forges a brotherhood with a certain Lee Ju Cheol, who has a lover named Sukhyang. There's a birth switch in there somewhere.
Season 11: Slave (July 11th 1978~March 30th 1979) 221 episodes, Jeongjo's reign. After Hong Guk Young is framed, exiled and poisoned to death by his political enemy Jeong Domun, his slave Sendol disguises himself as a nobleman named Kim Hakseon and enters Court to take revenge for his master. He also wants to free Hong Guk Young's sister Seonah, who he's been in love with since he was a slave and she was still noble. After Hong Guk Young's exile, Seonah became a government slave for Jeong Domun, who humiliates her and tries to sell her off. Sendol tries to rescue her as Kim Hakseon but fails, nearly disclosing his (badly-kept) secret to the King, and to Dowager Queen Jeongsun. Seonah is sold to Yeom Pansu, who I think is supposed to be really two-faced henchman for Domun. After Domun realizes that Kim Hakseon is a threat to his power, he investigates and finds out his true identity, but needs evidence. Meanwhile, Royal Secretary Yun's daughter Chaebong schemes to marry Hakseon and succeeds, but realizes he really loves Seonah. She becomes extremely jealous and tries to get Seonah sold to Jeju. When that fails, she teams up with Jeong Domun to implicate her and Kim Hakseon in a treason case. Jeong Domun also tries to harm Hakseon's mother, who is also Hong Guk Young's slave. In the end, Sendol never finds evidence to clear Hong Guk Young's name, but manages to expose Jeong Domun's scheme and get Seonah freed. Yeom Pansu and Jeong Domun expose Sendol's true identity (that everyone knew already btw) and Sendol is tortured in the State Tribunal but avoids execution. Sendol manages to keep his status as a noble and his identity as Kim Hakseon. Some more details about this season in the comments.
Theme song: Head Slave by Kim Woo Jeong
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Oct 20, 2021 3:49:32 GMT -5
Director: Kim Jae Hyeong Writer: Lee Cheol Hyang Cast: Yu Ja In, Sa Mi Ja
- Im Dong Jin as Hong Guk Young
- Kim Se Yun as Sendol/Kim Hakseon
- Baek Il Seop as an official from the Ministry of Punishment
[Hong Guk Young, maybe?]
- Lee Sun Jae as a palanquin bearer (?)
- Jeong Sonyeo as the official's sister, who is also an assassin who tried to kill Hong Guk Young in the show.
This season was described in the newspapers as "so dramatic that one doesn't know what to look at. This is an interesting drama, but it's no sageuk."
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Post by sageuk on Oct 20, 2021 14:53:14 GMT -5
So fusion historicals were already something of a thing in the past long before that term came to be.
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Post by ajk on Oct 21, 2021 13:26:49 GMT -5
Yeah apparently there was some serious experimenting going on by the end of this group. Especially with the tenth series is notable too...if it's an adaptation of an action movie then that's really pushing things.
Anyway thanks Sean for all of this great information. I'm working on getting the series into the timeline now.
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Post by ajk on Oct 23, 2021 1:21:12 GMT -5
So I finally had time to sit down and organize all of the information in this group and put the group into the timeline. For now it's in its own separate section; not sure if I should integrate it into the main list but I can always do that in the future. Thanks again Sean for finding so many facts and figures on each of the series.
When you step back and look at the big picture it's clear that this was a remarkable run. Nearly seven years and almost 2000 episodes. It was a daily drama rather than a more elaborate prime-time series, and apparently women were the target audience rather than a more general audience...but whatever, it had some very sophisticated stories and it even experimented with dramatic styles (like them or not) that didn't take root until decades later. And obviously they found a core audience for it, at least enough of one to keep it going for as long as it went.
It's such a shame that so little of it has survived for us to see today. Partly becuase it would be so interesting to see if it had any larger influence on the making of historicals, or if it just had its run and faded away.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Oct 23, 2021 2:53:45 GMT -5
There actually are two more seasons: Mapo Port and Lament of the Mandarin Duck. I don't have any information about those two seasons yet but based on the synopses i read for Mapo Port, it seems mostly like a family drama based in the last years of Joseon (pre-Short Hair Order for sure because one of the plotlines includes one of the characters cutting their hair and wearing Western clothes.) I'll make a proper post when i finish reading through them all!
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Oct 23, 2021 3:11:42 GMT -5
So I finally had time to sit down and organize all of the information in this group and put the group into the timeline. For now it's in its own separate section; not sure if I should integrate it into the main list but I can always do that in the future. Thanks again Sean for finding so many facts and figures on each of the series. When you step back and look at the big picture it's clear that this was a remarkable run. Nearly seven years and almost 2000 episodes. It was a daily drama rather than a more elaborate prime-time series, and apparently women were the target audience rather than a more general audience...but whatever, it had some very sophisticated stories and it even experimented with dramatic styles (like them or not) that didn't take root until decades later. And obviously they found a core audience for it, at least enough of one to keep it going for as long as it went. It's such a shame that so little of it has survived for us to see today. Partly becuase it would be so interesting to see if it had any larger influence on the making of historicals, or if it just had its run and faded away. The format and content shift from 1980 forward seems so sudden from my standpoint. That plus the fact that it coincides with TBC's downfall makes me wonder if there's a correlation with the military dictatorship. All the theses I've searched up say otherwise though, they say it came with a change in women's position in society and increased historical research, with more focus on changes in the 90s than anything else.
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Post by ajk on Oct 24, 2021 3:21:37 GMT -5
OK thanks, no rush on those other two. And maybe I should renumber them? If Samogok should be considered 1 and Yeonhwa 2? Doesn't really matter, they're fine the way they are.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Oct 24, 2021 4:23:58 GMT -5
OK thanks, no rush on those other two. And maybe I should renumber them? If Samogok should be considered 1 and Yeonhwa 2? Doesn't really matter, they're fine the way they are. Actually if you're going to renumber them, you should make Samogok Season 0 and Yeonhwa Season 1 because of the broadcast dates - Yeonhwa didn't show right after Samogok like the rest, so I guess we can consider Samogok a "progenitor"?
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Oct 24, 2021 15:15:06 GMT -5
Director: Kim Jae Hyeong Writer: Lee Cheol Hyang Cast: Yu Ja In, Sa Mi Ja
- Im Dong Jin as Hong Guk Young
- Kim Se Yun as Sendol/Kim Hakseon
- Baek Il Seop as an official from the Ministry of Punishment
[Hong Guk Young, maybe?]
- Lee Sun Jae as a palanquin bearer (?)
- Jeong Sonyeo as the official's sister, who is also an assassin who tried to kill Hong Guk Young in the show.
This season was described in the newspapers as "so dramatic that one doesn't know what to look at. This is an interesting drama, but it's no sageuk." A photo from the show! I'm not sure about anyone else, but that's Lee Sun Jae on the right.
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Post by sageuk on Oct 24, 2021 17:56:08 GMT -5
The person who played Yeongjo in Yi San?
I know it's because he was younger then, but it's difficult to recognize him.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Oct 25, 2021 20:48:58 GMT -5
The person who played Yeongjo in Yi San? I know it's because he was younger then, but it's difficult to recognize him. That's correct! The quality of the picture isn't helping either, to be honest.
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Post by ajk on Oct 25, 2021 23:27:32 GMT -5
Actually if you're going to renumber them, you should make Samogok Season 0 and Yeonhwa Season 1 because of the broadcast dates - Yeonhwa didn't show right after Samogok like the rest, so I guess we can consider Samogok a "progenitor"? No numbers it is! lol I don't think the gap in between them would necessarily matter, it's more a question of was Samogok considered to be the start of the 500 Years group when it aired or thereafter. But maybe it's best to just leave the numbers out entirely anyways.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Nov 6, 2021 1:56:14 GMT -5
More information about Season 9 (Rain Wind and the Cold Dew)
Director: Kim Jae Hyeong Scriptwriter: Gwak Il Ro Cast: Jang Mi Hee, Kim Se Yun, Baek Il Seop, Sa Mi Ja, Kim Seong Won
"A complicated fate tangles two faces that look just the same! A tale of patriotism, love and passion is set in the Reform Period of Late Joseon."
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Nov 6, 2021 2:05:09 GMT -5
More information on Season 8: Legend of Lady Heo
Director: Kim Jae Hyeong Scriptwriter: Shin Bong Seung Cast: Park Geun Hyeong, Hong Semi, Hwang Jeong Sun, Noh Ju Hyeon, Jang Mi Hee, Lee Nak Hun, Baek Il Seop
"The story of a wise, good wife who sticks to her duty. At the end of the Lee Dynasty, a husband falls into jealousy and debauchery and squanders the family fortune, but his devoted wife eventually turns him into a new person."
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