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Post by ajk on Jun 12, 2016 22:19:25 GMT -5
Still waiting for the meat of the series to get started...any time now, guys.... Some interesting stuff in this one about trade and commerce, and it was nice to see Jung-hwa starting to turn into more of a fuller character. On the other hand, the fight in the desert at the end, what a ridiculous outcome and why would they even try it? Where are they gonna go, in the middle of the desert and not knowing any Chinese? That's a business aptitude test? Sell some silk in one day? Not exactly the GMAT, is it. Something so highly dependent on luck is hardly a fair test. But I did like the way she sold it; it was a clever little storyline. Wow that was kinda cold, Yeom Moon sort of pours his heart out to Jung-hwa (at least as much as he seems capable of it) and she ignores him. Ouch. "If someone spits in your face, you must wait until it dries." Well isn't that special. "You might create more trouble by rescuing them." Yeah, I wondered about that...and why Yeom Moon is trying to find Goong-bok knowing how Jung-hwa feels about him. Odd. For anybody who isn't familiar: Madam Jami said she was going to look for a husband for Jung-hwa among the jingol. Jingol refers to high-ranking nobles and ministers in Shilla. It was the second-highest tier in the "bone rank" system that was the basis of Shilla society. Wikipedia has a good explanation of it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_rank_systemOne thing this series definitely gets credit for, it really shows how little value was placed on human life back then. Sure is tough to watch, though.
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Post by sageuk on Jun 12, 2016 22:38:48 GMT -5
^About the whole "little value placed on human life" thing, isn't that common with alot of historicals, even the inaccurate ones?
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episode 8
Jun 12, 2016 23:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by truth on Jun 12, 2016 23:17:02 GMT -5
For anybody who isn't familiar: Madam Jami said she was going to look for a husband for Jung-hwa among the jingol. Jingol refers to high-ranking nobles and ministers in Shilla. It was the second-highest tier in the "bone rank" system that was the basis of Shilla society. Jingol was the second highest tier before Kim Chunchu became the king. Seonggol lineage, the former highest tier, ended with Queen Jindeok and this is how Queen Seondeok was able to become a monarch in the first place. There were no male Seonggol left after the death of King Jinpyeong, so they had no choice but to enthrone Seondeok as the new monarch despite her being a woman. Queen Jindeok took over after Seondeok's death as she was the last remaining Seonggol. This drama takes place about 155 years after the death of Queen Jindeok, which would make Jingol the highest tier in the ranking system in the time setting of the drama. P.S This drama doesn't have a lot of history in it since it's a fusion drama. You can expect some history, but not until very later. I think God of War may have been the better choice as it is packed with history compared to this one. Of course, it's not perfect as there are many errors in it, but it's still more focused on history than fusion "historicals."
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Post by ajk on Jun 13, 2016 0:07:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, truth, very helpful.
sageuk yeah it's very common, you're absolutely right...but it seems like this drama is really pounding it home more than others do.
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Post by jewel on Jun 13, 2016 23:01:02 GMT -5
lol - I kinda understand what you mean but I don't see what Jung Hwa could've said in response. I mean he didn't really profess his love for her or anything. He just said he found her very beautiful.
I thought the same. I mean if Goong Bok appeared in front of him and he could help him that's one thing but to go a thousand miles out of the way to rescue him... well that is rather odd, as you say. Some people might not do that for their own family. (For instance, Jung Hwa for her brother heh heh)
I kinda enjoyed this episode slightly better than the previous ones. I liked the interaction between Yeom Moon and Jung Hwa. I felt they had a better screen chemistry than between Goong Bok and her. I liked the scene when Madame Jami confides in Jung Hwa that if she had truly behaved like a surrogate mom she would've been more concerned about Jung Hwa getting married. Tho I still can't stand MJ I thought that was a little touching. Also enjoyed Yon hiding the meat to share with Goong Bok, don't know why. Thought it was cute.
What I didn't like was the escape scene in the desert. I didn't think what you thought, Ajk, but I said to myself "What, again?? Why bother when they're gonna get caught again anyway like twenty times before?!" But maybe not this time....?...
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Post by ajk on Jun 18, 2016 17:39:16 GMT -5
If I said those things to a woman and she just stood there stone-faced I guess I'd think, well, message received. Not even a smile or a thank-you or anything? Ouch, I felt for the poor slob.
But relationship stuff is different in that culture so maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by jewel on Jun 18, 2016 20:53:30 GMT -5
I dont know why men think telling a woman that she's beautiful is the ultimate compliment. I don't think it's such a big deal for a beautiful woman to be told that she's beautiful. First of all she most likely already knows it and secondly the guy is basically saying he likes the outside of her (especially when he comments on her beauty as soon as they meet). It's a turn-off if anything cuz he knows nothing about her personality or character. It's equivalent to a girl gushing over a guy's wealth the second she meets him. Not a good way to impress.
Besides I think Yeom Moon did get the message. They went right to being very business-like afterwards, I thought.
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Post by ajk on Jun 19, 2016 1:38:13 GMT -5
Didn't say it was the ultimate compliment. Just a nice thing to say. Certainly nice enough not to warrant the stony silence, no matter who said it to her. But yes, no question he got the message.
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