Didn't you say that YH was the first Daruma you ever watched? If something so good was your introdution, I can see why anything else would be somewhat of a letdown.
I find that I am enjoying OMR just about as much as I did 'So this is Love', which is my second fave, after YH. I even like Yoon Hae-young as Yu-jin more than I did as Hoon-sook. But I liked Lee Chang-hoon better as Joon-bum than as Min-jae.
YH was exceptional, but others are very good, even excellent, also. Just give 'em a chance, and you may well get hooked again. I know I always do.
Soju, a question for you and maybe to some other fellow watchers. Do you think One Million Roses can replace the drama show Yellow Handkerchief? I've never seen OMR, I will plan to soon, but I want your opinion Soju, Is OMR as good as Yellow Handkerchief? Thanks!
Ayshun, did you even read what Soju said in his post above yours? He said he's enjoying OMR about as much as he did "So this is Love", which he said was his second favorite durama after Yellow Handkerchief.
Which means, he does not think One Million Roses is as good as Yellow Handkerchief so far...but it's almost tied for second place with his second favorite drama.
Yes, Soju, Yellow Handkerchief was my first daruma. But once I got interested in it, I tried watching some of Age of Warriors, On the Green Prairie and Wife. And while I thought all of them had interesting aspects to them, none of them drew me in enough to get me hooked, the way YH did. Eventually, I gave up trying to follow and stay tuned in.
I'm committed to giving OMR a fair try though. Some of it is kind of cute, funny and interesting. But I'm already getting turned off to Hae-ran for becoming attracted to Hyung-kyu. The guy has weak character, he plays irritating practical jokes, is not serious about anything and I hate the way he yanks Hae-ran around by her arm all the time. He says insulting things to her and when she turns on her heel to stomp off (which she's right to do), he grabs her by the arm and snaps her back hard. If some creep did that to me, I'd slap him hard. If he did it twice, I'd make trouble for him. But not Hae-ran...she acts annoyed when he does it, but can't get him out of her mind later, thinking back on him, getting all moony over him. It's really disappointing to see.
Also, it was very forward of Hyung-kyu to steal that kiss from Hae-ran on the street when they were walking home. That she did slap him for, but you can see she really liked it, which is the old stereotype I find so offensive. Another thing, Hyung-kyu would marry Yu-jin right now, except she doesn't like him that way. But that doesn't say much for his feelings for Hae-ran.
And if HR and HK do get together, poor HR will have to live under the same roof as that awful witchy grandmother. I don't want these 2 together, but it looks like that's where it's going. Which is nearly reason enough for me to bail on it.
Jade’s echoing a lot of the feelings I currently have for OMR (we’re up to episode 29 in L.A.). Like her, I also haven’t contributed much to the OMR forum, simply because I haven’t been able to work up enough enthusiasm about the show to bother pounding anything out at my keyboard. It’s been hard for me to get all excited about discussing the depth and complexity of the plot, because (compared to YH) OMR’s plot just isn’t all that deep or complex.
Well, if the plot isn’t deep or complex, then I have to depend on characterizations to grab me. “To Be With You” didn’t exactly have brilliant writing, but I quickly empathized with young Moon-hee’s efforts to support her struggling family (reminds me a little of what a high-school aged Ja-Young might have been like). As such, I really enjoyed TBWY, even if the writing wasn’t first rate.
But, so far, I’ve developed little affection for the major players in OMR. Psycho-grandma is irrationally savage towards her daughter-in-law and stepson. Min-jae has built up such a thick skin from all the wounds he’s suffered over the years that he’s just one cold fish. And – though he’s apparently quite popular with much of the female audience – I find spoiled pretty-boy Hyun-kyu to be downright irritating (though he apparently does begin to grow up a bit as the series progresses). I do like Yu-jin, though: she’s strong, confident, and decent (as Soju notes, a huge improvement over the mousy and timid Hoon-sook in “So This Is Love”) but, by itself, her character alone just isn’t enough to entirely reel me in.
I’m still watching, though – it’s just that I’m not rushing to the TV every evening the way I was when YH was being broadcast. But, in all fairness, many viewers out there seem to be loving OMR – so I guess it’s all a matter of personal taste.
Mikey, do you really think Min-jae is that popular with female viewers? That isn't the sense I had from the messages I've seen on the OMR board. I've seen a few people say they don't want to see Min-jae with Hae-ran and a couple of people at least have said they're glad she's showing interest in Hyung-kyu. So I didn't get the sense the female audience sees him as much of a dreamboat.
If anything, comments indicate they think Hyung-kyu is hot, which I don't get at all. I hated his bad-dye-job-blond hair, pasted down on his head like straw, and I don't like it much better now that he returned it to his natural color. But more than his looks, which don't do a thing for me, I hate his spoiled brat attitude.
That scene of him taking the science project that pushover Soon-young ordered Min-jae to give his little stepbrother and smashing it up shows what a nasty little selfish brat he is. I know he was just a kid then, but the kind of kid who does that sort of thing is the kind that turns into an unlikeable adult.
Why am I supposed to like this jerk? Why am I supposed to respect Hae-ran for succumbing to whatever charm she imagines he holds?
And Sonia, I like your idea of a sequel to YH. Maybe they never could recreate the same kind of dramatic tension they had when Sang-min broke Ja-young's heart, but it would be so great if they could cook up something for them to do. Maybe this time around, action could focus on different characters.
I'm so happy I'm not the only one who can't stand Hyun Kyu, and can't understand Hae Ran for liking him! I thought it was just me :-[. It always takes me a while to warm up to a new drama, and I've never given up on one yet (the 6:00pm dramas, I was never very devoted to the hour long ones). I will be very disappointed if Hae Ran and Hyun Kyu become a couple (even though it looks that way) but I was disappointed when Tae Young married Mi Ryung, and I got over that. So maybe there's hope yet. We just have to give it time.
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As you’ve all noticed by now, I have a tendency towards run-on sentences (not to mention gibberish in general) so I can see how I might have inadvertently implied that Min-jae was popular with women. Of course, I really meant to say that Hyun-kyu (the blonde-haired brat) was the teen idol. Sorry, next time: better editing!
Funny how all the translators have given the blonde brat slightly different names. Early reports I saw had him listed as “Hyun-gyu,” but KTE in L.A. calls him “Hyun-kyu,” and I guess the Chicago subtitler is calling him “Hyung-kyu.” Oh well, guess we’ll all manage . . .
As for a YH sequel, all I can say is right on, Sonia! I know it’s always tough to re-unite a cast of actors, but wouldn’t a flash-forward “YH-2” (featuring, say, Ji-min and Yuna at college age) be a treat? C’mon, KBS, go for it!
Mikey, after you explained what you meant, I looked back at what you'd written and could see you were talking about Hyung-kyu (or gu, whatever) and not Min-jae. My bad, I guess, not yours. Sorry!
I forgot what I meant to say before though...it's an example of how unexcited I am about OMR. I had to go out last Thursday evening and forgot to set the VCR to record. I recorded the show the next morning, and then the one Friday evening. But I didn't look at either of them until Sunday late afternoon. I started watching the earlier ep. Friday night, but started dropping off asleep, so I gave up on it and held off until Sunday. But I had to push myself to do it. W/ YH, I could barely wait to see an ep. It was almost always the first thing we'd do when my husband got home. And I'd always tape the morning ep. to see if I missed anything and I always looked at it right away. I don't even bother recording the morning ep. of OMR now. I did the first few times, but gave it up. I don't worry if I miss a scene or two. It just isn't that critical to me.
It's good to know not everyone finds Hyung-kyu this terrific loverboy. I thought it was just me who's turned off by him.
I guess what irritates me most about OMR is the writers’ rush to rehabilitate Hyun-kyu as quickly as possible. Here’s someone who’s been cruel and selfish towards Min-jae his whole life, and now he’s suddenly this great guy we’re all supposed to love?
It’s okay for a rotten character to reform himself – we all remember how Sang-min became a sympathetic character towards the end of YH – but in Sang-min’s case, he needed four years and a terminal illness to finally turn himself around. With Hyun-kyu, I guess we’re expected to believe that his “love for a woman” has reformed him. But how cliché is that? And the woman he’s after is the very woman his older brother dearly loves, for crying out loud!
Frankly, I think I’d be enjoying OMR a whole lot more if they’d kept Kyun-kyu the selfish brat he’d always been – at least, for a while. Imagine him with all the personality characteristics of his grandmother – wouldn’t he be a character we’d all love to hate?
Well, this thread is rapidly becoming in the wrong forum.
I would say that I think of YH as a special case. It was so much deeper than the other daily dramas I've seen, that I wouldn't compare it to the others.
I find that I like OMR quite a lot. Yes, several of the characters are not likable, but that gives them something to overcome over the course of the series.
By contrast, I found that I didn't care for 'To Be With You' much at all. Except that it did have Kyun Mi-ree in it. Of course, being an addict, I watched the whole thing nonetheless.
Regarding Romanization of Korean names, some Hangul can be transliterated in multiple ways: K and G; R and L; CH and J; and S and SH share the same Hangul letters. Vowels are even stickier. Most Learning Korean books and Korean-English dictionaries I've seen use the "short vowel" mark on some of them, but that's not practical for use on the Internet, and there seems to be quite a bit of variation as to alternatives.
¿ÀÇö±Ô (turn on Korean Encoding to read) is definitely not "Hyung", which would be " Çü ".
I dont know about YH, but you can buy who's my love? on Sodrama.com w/ english subtitles... i thinks its like $50....
Since the actress who played Ja-young (Lee Tae-ran) also appeared in "Who's My Love," I checked Sodrama.com for that title, but I couldn't find it (maybe I just missed it). No "Yellow Handkerchief" there either, sad to say, but someday, who knows?
Most of the Video CD's are Chinese (not English) subtitled, but there *are* a few English ones there. And the prices seem quite reasonable.
Despite these issues, this is certainly a website worth bookmarking. Thanks, Boxy!
Here's a site I found selling YH on DVD with subtitles: www.goksdvd.com/yellow_handkerchief.html Goks looks good, but I haven't actually bought anything or anything from them so I don't know if what they are selling is legit, ripped from TV, prices, etc. If anyone uses them, kindly post for the rest of us?