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Post by Avalon on Oct 22, 2003 20:07:28 GMT -5
So he's done it again. WK went to visit Ji-min at his new pre-school. He secretly followed the little boy and his grandma and sneaked into the school. All he cared about was Ji-min's acknowledgment of him. WK gave Ji-min a lollipop and asked him to call him "Grandpa." This is creepy behavior and should not be accepted by Ji-min's mom and dad. Let's see what happens.
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Post by TheBo on Oct 24, 2003 16:45:04 GMT -5
You're right, Avalon--that is a spoiler since you posted it the day before it happened in Chicago! Glad I refrained from looking 'til I saw it on the show! ;D I'm not sure why you posted it. That said--what the heck is wrong with that guy! No matter what anyone says to him, he just steams ahead like--well--a steamroller! Totally oblivious to Sang-Min's obvious distress when he talks to him. Total brick wall behavior. Nothing gets in except what he wants in. It IS creepy. Bo
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Post by aYsHuN on Oct 24, 2003 17:04:02 GMT -5
Ya, Avalon--You are so true about WK. Why must he so called "stalk" his grandson, he calls Ji-Min... Ji-Min is a smart boy, he ignores him like his parents told him to. I think Ji-Min should do home schooling, but I might be wrong about that, he'll need friends. WK should just die for the heck of it or stop "stalking" a little BOY!!! =] -aYsHuN
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Post by JadeEyes on Oct 24, 2003 17:12:04 GMT -5
In fairness to Avalon -- and I really don't owe her fairness, considering some of her comments toward me (but I still believe in being fair, even to people who haven't been nice) -- there was nothing too much in her post that wasn't immediately obvious from the previews the day before, AND she did mark the post as a spoiler, which is all I ask.
So I don't think she deserves demerits here.
But getting to the point: that WK really creeped me out too. It was interesting to see how obviously uncomfortable Ji-min was w/ the attention and interaction. He remembers this is someone who visited him before and lead to him getting his mother very upset w/ him and spanking his bottom. That's reason enough to want to steer clear of this guy. But WK's whole behavior...coaching him to say "grandpa" and pulling him in for a hug...no wonder he gave Ji-min the willies. I think even w/o the warning and scolding from his mother, a child's instinct would be to back away from such advances. I liked the way JM pulled out of WK's clutch and hurried off w/ a quick "goodbye!"He's right to be creeped out!
That said, I'm really bugged w/ JY and YJ at this point. After everything that's happened, and after knowing how persistent this old coot is, how it could be that they never warned the preschool against this happening I just can't understand. How many times does crisis have to strike before they buy a clue and implement some basic prevention rules? I also don't believe that a preschool even on the other side of our globe would have such different policies about allowing anyone to walk into a preschool and have unlimited access to a child there. The safety and liability issues involved here can't be so different from our own.
But now that WK knows where Ji-min lives and goes to school, I suppose we can count on him making a regular pest of himself the next few weeks. I'm not surprised SM was stricken w/ pain after WK's visit...the guy is one giant pain in the side!
Jade
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Post by TheBo on Oct 24, 2003 17:33:36 GMT -5
In fairness to Avalon -- there was nothing too much in her post that wasn't immediately obvious from the previews the day before, AND she did mark the post as a spoiler, which is all I ask. ...I'm really bugged w/ JY and YJ at this point. ...I'm not surprised SM was stricken w/ pain after WK's visit...the guy is one giant pain in the side! LOL Jade! I agree with everything you say about WK. He's a stinker. And why DO those stupid preschool girls keep shoving a child toward a man they don't even know and then leaving him there alone? I hope they have better policies than that, and that this is just a way to move the action along. That's bothered me all along. Just a note on the "spoilers"--I think the reason I find some particular ones so annoying is, they are not really posted as part of a discussion; they are merely bald announcements of what "happened" on a particular show. I think that's why I lit into poor aYsHuN (and how did you get that interesting appellation, darling boy?) that time. It just seems like a not-so-veiled effort to be "first". That's my piece and I've stated it. (But in turn, to be fair to Avalon, she does discuss the action, too. Sorry Avalon for snaring you in my vendetta.) Bo
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Post by JadeEyes on Oct 24, 2003 19:31:49 GMT -5
Why do fans who are a little ahead of Chicago in the action post about episodes we haven't had here yet? Maybe they're hoping to start conversation w/ other fans who participate here but are also ahead of Chicago. Maybe they figure the Chicago viewers will join in when we catch up. I really don't know.
But as long as people who do those warn the rest of us adequately by placing spoiler warning in the subject header, I have no complaints. It's perfectly legitimate to post spoilers AS LONG AS THEY ARE PROPERLY MARKED AS SUCH. For all the past tensions between Avalon and me, I give her credit for amending her posting style accordingly, and thank her for it. And I have no criticism of that now.
I don't know what went on between you and aYsHuN--I must've missed the exchange, I guess. But I would like to go on record as commending aYsHuN for his good behavior since he was cautioned about spoiler posting. As soon as it was explained to him, he very politely apologized and has been very careful since to mark all his spoiler posts w/ appropriate warnings in the header. Never once did he flame me or anyone else for complaining to him about it. I'm very impressed w/ him...even more so when he mentioned he's 15. He's shown infinitely more maturity and courtesy than some others here warned about the same thing, all of whom are adults (age wise). He gets high praise in my book, and aYsHuN, if you're reading this, I want to thank you personally for being such a grown-up and a gentleman. I wish a certain "grown-up" who visits here periodically would take a lesson from you.
As to Woon-kyu...now that we know they do have restraining orders in Seoul (Kyung-jin mentioned it), I don't know why JY doesn't get one out against WK. He's made it abundantly clear he won't listen or respect their wishes, nor listen to his own son. Nothing more remains other than to use the force of law, which I say they are more than entitled to do at this point. I can only speculate that her hesitation lies with him being an elder and JY's social conditioning teaching her you don't take such actions against an elder. She needs to revise her views, I think, and modernize them some. The guy is acting like a total scum and he's probably scaring her little boy. That's a lot more serious than worrying about some outdated social taboo.
As for the school thing, I'm furious. JM should not be deprived the right to enjoy his preschool. It's ridiculous that the school staff can't be instructed to keep any unauthorized visitors away from Ji-min at school. Grandma Sohn can get her driver to get her to and from school each day w/ JM so that she and JM aren't out there on the street getting accosted by this creep. Furthermore, these are very rich people. Can't they hire a private security guard to keep watch at the school, and at the house and playground, etc.? At least for the time being? If WK approaches the school or the house or JM on the street, the guard steps in before WK gets there and straightens him out, calling the police if necessary. We know they have bodyguard agencies in Seoul because of the other daruma running now. A really professional one can hold his post w/o JM even realizing he's there.
It's pretty clear JY and YJ are just failing to see the obvious to keep the drama alive. I understand that, but it's not very believable.
Jade
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Post by Avalon on Oct 25, 2003 9:23:41 GMT -5
The weight of this board too much ;D
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Post by Avalon on Oct 25, 2003 9:25:20 GMT -5
The weight of this board is too much ;D
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Post by mikey on Oct 25, 2003 11:19:41 GMT -5
I think that's why I lit into poor aYsHuN (and how did you get that interesting appellation, darling boy?) Bo, take it from me: whatever you do, never, NEVER refer to a 15-year old male as a “darling boy!” Yeeesh! It’s been a long while since I was a teenager, but that even made me wince! You can call him “Dude,” or call him “Bro,” or call him almost anything, but please, don’t call him that! ;D All in good humor -- Mikey
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Post by JadeEyes on Oct 25, 2003 11:56:10 GMT -5
The weight of this board is too much ;D You, of course, are free to go at any time. Jade
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Post by TheBo on Oct 25, 2003 18:31:08 GMT -5
Bo, take it from me: whatever you do, never, NEVER refer to a 15-year old male as a “darling boy!” Whooops! Sorry. Sometimes I get swept up in high spirits. Dude. Where'd ya get that name, DUDE. Bo
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Post by Avalon on Oct 26, 2003 13:22:42 GMT -5
Funny thing that you think I was referring to you? Well just to let you know I usually SKIP over what you write.
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Post by galacticchick on Oct 27, 2003 16:25:20 GMT -5
At the risk of re-igniting a fire that seems to have died down, I just have one question:
Why is it okay for JadeEyes to bring up her problems with Avalon and I quote "In fairness to Avalon -- and I really don't owe her fairness, considering some of her comments toward me", but just last week she and other forum members were chewing out INDEBWETRUST for bringing up past disagreements?
Sure Deb was a little late, but she also gave an explanation as to why she responded so long after the last post was made. It's unfair and unreasonable to reprimand a member for doing one thing, and then turning around and supporting another member who is doing the same thing. That is just my humble opinion but I just felt it had to be said.
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Post by INDEBWETRUST on Oct 29, 2003 17:20:05 GMT -5
At the risk of re-igniting a fire that seems to have died down, I just have one question: Why is it okay for JadeEyes to bring up her problems with Avalon and I quote "In fairness to Avalon -- and I really don't owe her fairness, considering some of her comments toward me", but just last week she and other forum members were chewing out INDEBWETRUST for bringing up past disagreements? Sure Deb was a little late, but she also gave an explanation as to why she responded so long after the last post was made. It's unfair and unreasonable to reprimand a member for doing one thing, and then turning around and supporting another member who is doing the same thing. That is just my humble opinion but I just felt it had to be said. Hello Again, Ditto. Deb ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Today I am glad that I read the board. I knew I could not have been the only one who felt that this was inappropriate behaviour--Thank you G-Chick. Have a Good Day All, Thak you for your time--Deb And just in case I don't get back before Friday--HAPPY HALLOWEEN
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Post by INDEBWETRUST on Oct 29, 2003 17:28:09 GMT -5
You, of course, are free to go at any time. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT YOU AVALON BUT I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO DEFEND YOU--I JUST CAN'T STAND ANY ONE GETTING BEAT UP. IT JUST MAKES ME SO MAD. THE ADVOCATE SAYS- THE ISSUER OF THIS MESSAGE CAN TAKE HIS/HER OWN ADVICE AT ANY TIME. REALLY! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME-DEB IN ADVOCATE MODE
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