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Post by mugwump on Dec 10, 2009 18:10:34 GMT -5
I'm with you Chuck. What are the writers thinking? SD pushed Yushin away when she decided to stay and become king. So Yushin agreed to serve her as a loyal subject rather than love her as a man. That's what she wanted. Now she's lonely and turning to Bidam, whom she's always liked. But as you pointed out, she gave him permission early on to treat her like a person instead of a royal. I'll bet if she'd ever reached out to Yushin, he would have come running back to her with open arms. Bidam has charm but he's totally amoral, he just does not get the concept of right and wrong. How can you have a real loving relationship with someone like that, especially when you're trying to rule a country? If Bidam goes down, I want to see him go down because of some fatal tragic flaw in himself, not because Mishil's dregs created some misunderstanding to undermine his relationship with SD. I want him to be responsible for his destruction, not Yeomong or Misaeng.
On to the sidebar rant. Granted I am no general, but time after time in these shows I see one army ambushing another and it always goes the same way. They shoot some arrows and then they rush at them with their swords. With their advantage of surprise, I'd just keep shooting arrows until that's no longer practical. Why go after them with swords when you can fire arrows without putting yourself in harm's way? But in this case Gobo's men didn't even have arrows! Throwing boulders and setting off traps may look impressive but it didn' treally take anyone out, did it. Pretty lame. Bring on the flaming arrows!
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Post by chuck on Dec 11, 2009 23:02:17 GMT -5
Episode 58
Well, if the Queen really loves Bidam, and not Yushin, then she should simply have been honest and told Yushin that, not use the "I'm the Queen, don't touch me!" excuse.
When Chunchu discovered the secret message, with Bidam supposedly the instigator, I kept expecting someone, probably Yushin, to say: "It's a trick. I don't believe Bidam is behind this. He just handed the maps of the Three Kingdoms over to me!"
And when the Mishil faction laid that trap on Bidam, I was wishing he would calmly walk over to the door, bar it with something, and then proceed to slaughter every one of them, as they deserved.
Alas, things never seem to go as I wish.
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Post by griffin on Dec 15, 2009 6:14:23 GMT -5
.... my only response to ep 59 .....
duuuuhhhh.... ;D
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Post by mugwump on Dec 16, 2009 19:27:12 GMT -5
Ep 59 and 60 Chunchu - still precocious. I've been wondering what happened to Dae-what's his name (Misaeng's son). Looks like Chunchu's been indulging in a bit of revenge. This is setting up for a really good finale. The heads can't start rolling soon enough, especially Yomhong. Misaeng - up to the old family hocus-pocus. I was just wondering why he didn't try something like this earlier if he thought it would really work? It looks like this will have a nice tragic ending. Maybe we will get to see a really really good martial arts showdown between Bidam and Yushin. I'm just still miffed that Yushin's love has been marginalized by SD's flip-flop to Bidam. When she was talking about the sacrifice she and Bidam were making to finish off Mishil's faction, I wanted to yell, what about all the times Yushin put his life on the line and has gotten himself beaten up for you? What about his sacrifices? (End of rant)
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Post by griffin on Dec 16, 2009 21:37:38 GMT -5
And let the last dance begin.... tis so typical, that villian doesn't get his head loped off by BD. And I was all out for it....kill him! kill him! ;D
I echo Vir's (Babylon 5) sentiments to Mr Morden when he was asked what did he want. Vir said he would like nothing more than to be present when Morden's head was cut off, to stare into his sightless eyes and give him a little wave.
That's what I want for YJ! Slimy snake! ;D
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Post by alchemist091 on Dec 16, 2009 22:04:42 GMT -5
damn...two more eps to go...I'd been wondering what had happened to daenambo..who didn't think chunchu had it in him...was finally hoping yeomjang would get his head cut off too his laugh laugh annoys me.
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Post by tinkerbell on Dec 17, 2009 0:13:50 GMT -5
Bidam killed them all and it wasn't over chicken or books. ;D The writers didn't want to disappoint or anger all the Bidam fans, so history will be changed regarding the rebellion. I'm repeating myself but Seondeok should have executed Mishil's faction and Bidam should have offed Yeomjong when he killed Munno. Why did he let him live again this time? That sleazeball merchant is pulling all the shots now. He's taken Mishil's position and destroys anyone that gets in his way. He should be shot with his own poison arrows. I really didn't think anything about not seeing Dae Nambo. Chunchu is showing his cunning side again. I don't think he personally did the deed though. Hard to believe it will soon be over.
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Post by chuck on Dec 17, 2009 0:38:47 GMT -5
OMG, please tell me Bidam does not believe the Queen sent that guy to assassinate him? Bidam looks so great and "normal," so to speak, as the crazed martial artist, and so effeminate and boring as the royal soul mate. Keep your head on straight, Bidam----cut off the ugly head of Yeomjon! You know he's the source of all the tricks and double crosses being perpetrated left and right.
It was evil of Chunchu to plant that seed of doubt in Bidam's mind. He's just a little too power hungry.
The writers have to turn Bidam into an idiot to have him succumb to the duplicity of Yeomjon.
Well, I still think he'll realize his error in the end, just in time to kill Yeomjon, save the Queen, and no doubt die in the effort, but at least die in the right.
And what ails the Queen, anyway? They are clearly preparing us for her untimely end, from some sickness or other.
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Post by mugwump on Dec 17, 2009 17:17:36 GMT -5
Dae Nambo - That was one of the loose ends I didn't think would ever be cleared up. I have no doubt ChunChu is cold-blooded enough to have him killed. Remember the way he threatened Misaeng after he married the granddaughter. "Who will pay the price?" SD was able to let go of her thirst for revenge because she needed to run the country. ChunChu has apparently never let go of his. As to what ails SD, certainly she seems to have some sort of arrythmia. She told Bidam she had trouble sleeping because her heart would race. (And it wasn't because of her passion for Bidam). Apparently she's had it since she was a child. It's probably getting worse because of all the pressure she's under. I'm not sure though if arrythmia is fatal in and of itself. Yeomong - for heaven's sake kill the snake and be done with it. Let off a little steam. You don't need him for your rebellion. And it'll be a nice warm up for offing the others.
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Post by griffin on Dec 19, 2009 11:30:23 GMT -5
As to what ails SD, certainly she seems to have some sort of arrythmia. She told Bidam she had trouble sleeping because her heart would race. (And it wasn't because of her passion for Bidam). Apparently she's had it since she was a child. It's probably getting worse because of all the pressure she's under. I'm not sure though if arrythmia is fatal in and of itself. I'm guessing maybe the heart stops suddenly? o.O So if it does, is it during the time someone tells her the bad news about BD's little rebellion and she just goes off like that. In which case, BD gets to go last. Or it could be the other way round. *shrug* P.S. Waaah... after QSD, what's there to watch? boohoooo ...
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Post by pilseung on Dec 21, 2009 9:02:22 GMT -5
Yeomong - for heaven's sake kill the snake and be done with it. Let off a little steam. You don't need him for your rebellion. And it'll be a nice warm up for offing the others. Good one ;D ;D ;D P.S. Waaah... after QSD, what's there to watch? boohoooo ... Yup, it might be quite a while before another good one comes along.
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Post by alchemist091 on Dec 22, 2009 3:21:12 GMT -5
P.S. Waaah... after QSD, what's there to watch? boohoooo ... damn...the last one...I guess I watch it on tv and then wait for something good to come along
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Post by griffin on Dec 22, 2009 21:26:55 GMT -5
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Yeah, I was right. Her heart stops. Not gonna spoil it anymore so I'll keep quiet. ;D
On the whole, great story and drama. Great performance by the actors. I really enjoyed this show. Now I get to fiddle my thumbs on Mon and Tues. haha. ;D
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Post by chuck on Dec 23, 2009 0:22:27 GMT -5
Episode 61
At the start of the episode, Bidam is confronted with a seeming paradox, the woman he loves, and whom he believed loved him, had tried to have him assassinated? Impossible! And yet it happened. Bidam had a crazed look on his face, then staggered off into the forest, aimlessly. I thought he had gone insane.
But, he had not. So Bidam and Deokman are now out to kill each other, whether or not it resulted from a series of tricks or misunderstandings. Deokman rightly regrets the fact that Bidam did not have faith or trust in her. Which begs the question: why didn't the Queen have faith or trust in Yushin when she allowed Bidam to interrogate him, as though he were a criminal?
So it looks like it is going to end tragically for both Bidam and Deokman. Not a happy ending. Griffin mentioned that the Queen's heart stopped in the final episode. So I picture it as similar to the scene where Munno died, and Bidam finally realized the error of his ways and promised to mend his ways. So he will probably be cradling the Queen's head in his lap as she dies, too, bemoaning his failings, and then dying, somehow or other, himself.
As for Chunchu, The King is dead! Long live the King!
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Post by alchemist091 on Dec 23, 2009 2:43:04 GMT -5
62 Yeah, I was right. Her heart stops. Not gonna spoil it anymore so I'll keep quiet. ;D On the whole, great story and drama. Great performance by the actors. I really enjoyed this show. Now I get to fiddle my thumbs on Mon and Tues. haha. ;D it was really good QSD=awesomeness
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