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Post by truth on Sept 13, 2012 0:06:54 GMT -5
by the way truth, are you willing to tell us about history stories ? I really hated what I've seen so far, but I'm going to keep my promise. I'm not going to be translating everything from my book just as I did with God of War and IE. Annals of King Jinpyung(567-632. R.579-632) Jinpyung was the son of Crown Prince Dong Ryoon, the son of King Jinheung and Queen Sado, and Crown Princess Mano. His full name was Kim Baek Jeong. Crown Prince Dong Ryoon died in 572. On July of 579, Jinheung became the king at the age of 13 after Queen Dowager Sado dethroned King Jinji for not obeying her commands. Queen Sado ruled as a regent since Jinpyung was only 13 when he became king. She appointed her older brother Park Noribu as the Prime Minister and Hujik as the Minister of Military. Park Noribu died on December of 588 and Sueulbu took over as the Prime Minister. On 594, King Jinpyung sent a diplomat to Sui dynasty of China to establish diplomatic relations. On 596, he sent Monk Damyook to Sui to study Chinese Buddhism. Jinpyung worked hard to become friends with China, because his grandfather Jinheung had angered Goguryeo and Baekje by conquering many of their territories. On 598, Goguryeo sent 10,000 Malgal troops to attack Liaoxiao of China. Emperor Wen sent 300,000 army to invade Goguryeo as a retaliation, but they were massacred by Goguryeo's Kang Yishik. King Young Yang of Goguryeo asked for peace immediately after the war and Emperor Wen had no choice but to accept it. Baekje sent a messenger to Sui shortly after Wen's failed invasion and told them that Baekje was willing to help attacking Goguryeo. Emperor Wen rejected the offer. King Young Yang was very furious when he found about this, so he invaded Baekje. Baekje's General Hae Su invaded Shilla's Amak Fortress on August of 602. King Mu of Baekje wanted to regain the lands that were conqured by King Jinheung. King Jinpyung sent thousands of cavalry to fight back. He also built fortresses in Sota, Wae Seok, Cheonsan, Ong Jam and retaliated by invading Baekje. King Mu then retaliated by giving 40,000 troops to Hae Su in order to attack four Shilla fortresses. Shilla sent Gunpoom and Mu Eun to fight back. Mu Eun fell off the horse after falling into Hae Su's ambush, but he was luckily saved by his son Gwisan and Chu Hang. Gwisan and Chu Hang were both killed in action. The Shilla army got very upset by their deaths and fought back bravely. Hae Su's Baekje army had no choice but to retreat. On August of 603, King Young Yang of Goguryeo sent General Go Seung to attack North Han Fortress. King Jinpyung himself led the army of 10,000 to defeat them. On August of 605, Jinpyung invaded Baekje. Goguryeo attacked Shilla again after Shilla attacked Baekje. On 608, King Jinpyung ordered Monk Won Gwang to write a letter of request to Sui for a dispatch of troops to attack Goguryeo. Emperor Yang of Sui wasn't happy about Goguryeo refusing to pay tributes. King Young Yang invaded Shilla as soon as he heard about this and captured 8,000 Shillan peasants. Goguryeo then took over Woo Myung Fortress. On 611, King Jinpyung asked Sui again to attack Goguryeo. On 612, Emperor Yang of Sui invaded Goguryeo with 1,130,000 troops. However, Sui lost and retreated after few months. Emperor Yang couldn't stand the humiliation and continued to attack Goguryeo for the next 3 years, which all failed. I will continue with translations next time.
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Post by ajk on Sept 13, 2012 0:37:29 GMT -5
Hey, truth! Thanks so much for offering to do some more of this. It's great stuff and I love reading it. Very generous of you.
I especially am looking forward to this material because it will let me in on some of the Shillan history that I thought I'd be getting with the Seonduk series. In fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to steal it and repost it in a special thread on the QSD board, with full credit of course. That okay with you?
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Post by sageuk on Sept 13, 2012 1:06:05 GMT -5
Y'know, there are some shows that have a sucky start but start to pick up in quality after a while. Its probably hoping for too much for this one considering what truth has said, but hey, I think we've run into alot of those haven't we?
Of course I can't forgive the decision to make Yushin and Chunchu on bad terms. Its an insult to the historical figures' friendship
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Post by truth on Sept 13, 2012 1:47:58 GMT -5
ajk Yes, it's definitely fine @sageuk I hope that is the case, too. I heard that the drama is supposed to get more serious once the young version saga is over. They're actually best friends ever as teenagers right now, so I guess Kim Yushin is going to start hating KCC later. The scene with Kim Yushin trying to kill KCC happened in the first few minutes of the show before going into teenager days.
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Post by MTR on Sept 13, 2012 2:55:15 GMT -5
Love the history and will enjoy reading it Truth probably a lot more than the drama .
As the director did empress and with that the part with young Cheon Chu was really good than it nosedived as soon as Chae Si Ra took over the role so lets hope this is a reverse and no boomerangs and bears .
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Post by HungV on Sept 13, 2012 3:56:45 GMT -5
thanks very much for the information, truth , it's very kind of you. in fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to repost it to other forums where I have made another 2 topics for this show and I promise to give the full credit for you . I'm sure everyone from outside us has the same interests and wanna know what's going on in history compare with the things they've seen in the show. you are mistaken , truth .Above is king Jinpyung, not king Jinheung .
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Post by truth on Sept 13, 2012 11:18:54 GMT -5
thanks very much for the information, truth , it's very kind of you. in fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to repost it to other forums where I have made another 2 topics for this show and I promise to give the full credit for you . I'm sure everyone from outside us has the same interests and wanna know what's going on in history compare with the things they've seen in the show. you are mistaken , truth .Above is king Jinpyung, not king Jinheung . Sorry. My mistake.
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Post by truth on Sept 13, 2012 14:20:02 GMT -5
On July of 611, Baekje army surrounded the Kajam Fortress of Shilla. Kajam's Mayor Chan Deok fought for 100 days, but Kajam was ultimately conquered by Baekje. On October of 616, Baekje attacked Mosan Fortress of Shilla. However, Baekje was not serious about this attack and retreated shortly after beginning the attack.
On 618, Tang dynasty replaced Sui in China. King Jinpyung ordered Byun Poom, the Lord of North Han Fortress, to take back Kajam. Shilla failed to do so and Chan Deok's son Haeron was killed in action. King Jinpyung sent a diplomat to Tang right after this loss and established diplomatic relations.
On 623, Baekje attacked Neuk Noh of Shilla. On October of 624, Baekje surrounded Sokam, Ang Jam, Kijam, Bong Jam, Ki Hyun, and Hyul Chek of Shilla. General Nool Choi fought back bravely, but Shilla lost Bong Jam, Ang Jam, and Ki Hyun.
On 625, King Jinpyung sent a messenger to Tang and told them that Goguryeo was blocking Shilla's way to pay tribute to Tang and that Goguryeo was constantly attacking Shilla. Emperor Gaozu of Tang then advised Goguryeo to make peace with Shilla. King Young Ryu of Goguryeo listened to Gaozu's advice and stopped attacking Shilla.
On August of 626, Baekje conquered Jujae Fortress of Shilla and killed the lord of the fortress Dong So. Shilla built Go Huh Fortress to prepare for future attack. On July of 627, Baekje's General Sa Geol conquered two Shilla fotresses in Shilla's westernmost region and captured 300 Shillans.
On 628, Shilla took Kajam Fotress back. Baekje surrounded Kajam shortly after losing it, but they couldn't beat Shilla's resistance and retreated. On 629, Kim Yong Choon(KCC's father) and Kim Seo Hyun(Kim Yushin's father) conquered Nangbi Fortress of Goguryeo. Kim Yushin was also in the battle.
Shilla became very poor after constant wars. Starving people incresed and farmlands decreased. Some people sold their children for money. This led to political instablility and eventually resulted in a rebellion.
On May of 631, Chilsook and Seok Poom planned a rebellion. Fortunately, their plan was discovered early and King Jinpyung was able to suppress them. Chilsook was beheaded in the marketplace and his entire family was executed. Seok Poom ran away all the way to Baekje border, but he deeply missed his wife and came back to his house after switching clothes with a woodcutter. He was arrested by soldiers that were waiting in his house and executed.
Later that year, King Jinpyung sent two Shillan women to China to flatter Emperor Taizong of Tang. However, they were sent back to Shilla after Taizong's advisor Wei Zheng advised him to do so.
On 632, King Jinpyung died at the age of 66.
King Jinpyung had 4 wives.
1st wife : Queen Maya was the daughter of Galmun King Bok Seung. She gave birth to Princess Cheonmyung and Princess Deokman.
2nd wife : Queen Seung Man. She died shortly after giving birth to a son
3rd wife : Concubine Hwa Myung
4th wife : Concubine Ok Myung
Princess Cheonmyung : Cheonmyung was the first daughter of King Jinpyung and Queen Maya. She married King Jinji's first son Kim Yong Su. However, she loved Yong Su's brother Yong Choon. Yong Su knew about this and tried to convince his brother to marry her. Yong Choon refused. Queen Maya tried to convince Yong Choon as well, but she failed. Yong Choon finally accepted Yong Su's request when Yong Su asked him to marry Cheonmyung at his deathbed. Cheonmyung was supposed to succeed Jinpyung, but she knew that Jinpyung liked Deokman more. She moved out of palace with Kim Yong Choon for her sister as a result.
Here's a question. The next Shilla ruler is QSD, but should I also cover Baekje and Goguryeo kings of the same era before translating QSD's story? The focus of the drama is on Shilla, but I might cover the two other countries if you guys want it.
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Post by ajk on Sept 13, 2012 14:32:12 GMT -5
See, this is GREAT stuff. Definitely material that would have made for a better plot than I'm seeing in QSD so far. Once again, real history proves more interesting than television's attempt to replace it.
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Post by MTR on Sept 14, 2012 2:28:39 GMT -5
Yes Truth please do cover Baekje and Goguryeo .
Fascinating about Chilsook and also Cheonmyung really great stuff thanks Truth .
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Post by HungV on Sept 14, 2012 6:04:26 GMT -5
yes truth , please do it ! thanks for the great stories.
a question please. i read Chi suk was Ichan and Seokpum was Achan, what are these titles ?
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Post by hapha on Sept 14, 2012 7:55:23 GMT -5
thanks truth! tell us moar please. MOAR MOAR MOAAR. so, chilsuk and seokpum already died before QSD's reign... interesting and that queen sado too.
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Post by soapygrams on Sept 14, 2012 21:22:47 GMT -5
Kamsa ham nidaTruth - Tahat's the best phonetic spelling I cAn think ofr for this. I do so appreciate your REAL HISTORY
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Post by truth on Sept 15, 2012 4:42:01 GMT -5
@dyc ok, next up is King Mu of Baekje. Should I do this on the MBC Gyebaek thread or just do it on this thread? HungV They're just government positions @everyone thanks for the support guys
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Post by HungV on Sept 15, 2012 10:12:28 GMT -5
here please, i think people pay more attention to this one than the drama Gyebaek, and it's easier for us to discuss in the same topic.
can i know what is your book ? isn't it Samguk Sagi ?
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