chuck
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Post by chuck on Nov 5, 2011 16:49:02 GMT -5
It surprised me. I was thinking it was that other butcher like guy in Ban Chon.
What I don't understand is why the Hidden Root are continuing their plot at all. I thought their whole purpose was to have a council to help the King run the country. But the King does have a council helping him run the country, so what's their beef? What possible reason could they have for killing the scholars who are working on Hangul? Just because they don't know what they're working on? That is ridiculous.
The "Root" guy doesn't seem admirable at all. He just seems like he's out for vengeance. Jang Hyuk's character is also out for vengeance, but is otherwise a decent human being.
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Post by truth on Nov 5, 2011 19:08:00 GMT -5
It surprised me. I was thinking it was that other butcher like guy in Ban Chon. What I don't understand is why the Hidden Root are continuing their plot at all. I thought their whole purpose was to have a council to help the King run the country. But the King does have a council helping him run the country, so what's their beef? What possible reason could they have for killing the scholars who are working on Hangul? Just because they don't know what they're working on? That is ridiculous. The "Root" guy doesn't seem admirable at all. He just seems like he's out for vengeance. Jang Hyuk's character is also out for vengeance, but is otherwise a decent human being. Jung Gi Joon a.k.a Garion or Root, wants to make a constiutional monarchy where king is just a figurehead and all politics would be controlled by skilled ministers who know whats good for country
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Post by chuck on Nov 5, 2011 23:00:15 GMT -5
So in other words Jung Gi Joon wants his gang to be in power, instead of the King's gang.
That's why I like Jang Hyuk's character better. He isn't a hypocrite.
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Post by sageuk on Nov 23, 2011 19:07:40 GMT -5
The recent episodes were a little laggy, but nothing harmful. Hope the next episodes pick up.
I have one gripe with this series. The fighting looks like its more fit to be in an anime, and it just looks awkward seeing it in live action. Was the director watching the movie 300 or something? Actually, the slow motion movements in 300 and Chuno actually look natural compared to this. Tree with Deep Roots' fight scenes are too rigged and awkward. Its distracting as hell. DOn't get me wrong, the series is still good (so far), its just something to make note of
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Post by soapygrams on Dec 2, 2011 1:38:48 GMT -5
Ep 9 is a good one and I am watching this drama. I thought the first few eps wee a bit jumpy - it was hard to follow some of the actions - but then it started to make more sense - It was the Great King that ordered those deaths and NOT King Sejong - Wish ddol would find out that Lee do did NOT murder his father -- well we shall see at it continues whether he ever finds out that he is trying to gain vengeance on the wrong guy - the King that ordered the death of his father is already dead -- oh well - It adds to the mystery - It still hasn't "grabbed" my interest as much as either Dong Yi or Yi San - but it is interesting at least. I love THE LEAP -- there are times I sure wish I could do that over traffic - in my car tho -
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Post by bird11 on Dec 4, 2011 15:20:26 GMT -5
I just started watching this drama, and I really like it. Sometimes it is hard to catch on to all the people in a historical drama because they dress so much a like! A question, I was surprised to see the young king playing Su do Ku-- very interesting to watch him think about it and then have the girls move the tiles and do the math-- I thought this was a game that came out of Japan? Does anyone know any history of this game??? thanks!
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Post by TheBo on Dec 6, 2011 13:35:23 GMT -5
Bird, according to this guy, the game is not Japanese in origin, but American, and the name sudoku is a shortening of a Japanese phrase that means "the numbers are not married." You probably could find something on Wikipedia or elsewhere, too. So it seems your plot to have a Japanese game named after a Korean king has fallen for naught! Naught! LOL. Bo
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Post by bird11 on Dec 6, 2011 15:51:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, Bo. My husband likes to do So do ku, so I was hoping to brag that it was a Korean made game since I think he thinks my obsession with Korean dramas is a bit much! Oh well, it was a long shot.....at least my Asian decorations are still in the living room! (and my laptop is filled with dramas waiting to be watched!! ;D)
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Post by sageuk on Dec 8, 2011 18:21:41 GMT -5
You know how some historicals like to preach the king does this because he loves the people? Episode 19 brought up an intersting case of this. If we take Jung Gi-joon's words to heart, Sejong is subconciously making the letters just to make things easy for himself . Even So Yi points out that Sejong is afraid of them.. Hey you know something, I kind of like that. Humans are selfish by nature, and it makes a nice break from the "I love the people" sentimentality.
How did the real Gwangpyung die? I see he historically died at age 19, but what were the causes? Disease? Murder?
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Post by dora on Dec 9, 2011 12:27:09 GMT -5
I just watched episode 20.. with no english subss.............. oh well .... still love this drama and i want to know if there are more episodes..Thanks!!!
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Post by sageuk on Dec 9, 2011 18:06:15 GMT -5
Episode 20
Wow...what a gambit
Also found out the real Gwangpyung died of abscess, a collection of pus (dead neutrophils) that has accumulated in a cavity formed by the tissue in which the pus resides due to an infectious process (usually caused by bacteria or parasites) or other foreign materials. The organisms or foreign materials kill the local cells, resulting in the release of cytokines. The cytokines trigger an inflammatory response, which draws large numbers of white blood cells to the area and increases the regional blood flow. The final structure of the abscess is an abscess wall, or capsule, that is formed by the adjacent healthy cells in an attempt to keep the pus from infecting neighboring structures. However, such encapsulation tends to prevent immune cells from attacking bacteria in the pus, or from reaching the causative organism or foreign object.
Also, found this from dramatomy
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Post by ajk on Dec 10, 2011 13:48:32 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this, sageuk--brought back a lot of memories of watching Great King Sejong. What a terrific series that was. Such a shame that KBS cut down on its length because some of the intrigue and controversy mentioned in the post, we would have seen more of that and it would have made for some great television. Just to be clear, the post came from one of the contributors to the website sageuk cited. I didn't see anything on the site about credentials the author has or doesn't have as a researcher or historian. Not that the post is any less than 100% accurate; just saying that it's an Internet source only and not footnoted or endnoted. One thing I didn't know about from Sejong is the Songs of Flying Dragons book. If anybody's interested, here's the Wikipedia entry for that book (and yes, I know this is an Internet source too, I get the irony): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YongbieocheongaThanks again for the material.
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Post by truth on Dec 10, 2011 15:41:35 GMT -5
I don't understand why this drama keeps saying that Chosun has civil examinations to pick government officials unlike Koryo. Koryo started civil examinations in the late 900s.
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Post by sageuk on Dec 10, 2011 15:51:00 GMT -5
불휘 기픈 남 뿌리가 깊은 나무는 A tree with deep roots, ^So that's where the drama's title comes from
I think its safe to say I think Tree with Deep Roots is the best drama of 2011.
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Post by TheBo on Jul 11, 2013 9:09:47 GMT -5
I'm studiously avoiding reading the rest of this thread, as I just began watching TWDR on DF this morning. The first torture scene, about 10 minutes in, looked pretty damned disgusting--I mean, blood in a pool beneath someone's feet, moaning and bone-cracking. Since I was eating breakfast, I decided to postpone such ickiness until later, but I'm wondering, is that the level of gut-spilling I should expect? Do they dwell on these scenes? There was a noticable lack of blood in the (very violent) opening scenes, so I was more surprised by this than I would normally be. So, what level of blood and gore am I to expect here? Yi San level? Higher, like IYSS? Medium, like I dunno, QSD? 10% 20% 65%? Any guidance appreciated.
I guess I can take battle scenes, but torture gets to me, so if there's a lot of it that's probably where my comfort level will go down.
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