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Post by sageuk on May 17, 2011 18:13:05 GMT -5
historians have discovered written government recordings of the Joseon government's reaction to Admiral Yi's death. The records show that King Seonjo expressed a "blank expression", offering no signs of sadness or shock
This drama was released to coincide with the Dokdo issue with Japan and Korea.
I found out that in 1990, a Korean novel was published called Virus Imjin War. In the novel, Japan uses biological warfare with a weapon named Hideyoshi Virus only to fail.
So much anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea.
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Post by MTR on May 17, 2011 18:57:36 GMT -5
I like Shiku's take on the Admiral .
Anyway the Korea /Japan squabbles go right back to the Mongol Invasions of Japan , Still looking at it today its mainly between academics ,Korean Dramas and Music are very popular in Japan ,many Japanese Films and actors are popular in Korea like Jo Odagiri ,Asano Tadanobu .
I have known many Korean and Japanese people who are good friends . Younger Korean and Japanese do not care about history as much as older generations .
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Post by sageuk on May 17, 2011 19:45:47 GMT -5
I'm good friends with Japanese people too. I embrace it even. My dad respects Japanese cltre to the point he reads novels from Japan. I find it disgusting every time there is anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea.
They take it even further. There's a movie in which a secret South Korean nuclear submarine falls under the mercy of a charismatic half-mad captain, who attempts to carpet Japanese cities with nuclear weapons. This movie won six "Academy Awards" in South Korea. There's even a novel later adapted as a film where North and South Korea together develop a nuclear weapon, which is dropped off the coast of Japan
DYC, views on the drama's Yi Soon Shin?
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Post by shiku on May 17, 2011 22:42:48 GMT -5
Well I hardly know any Japanese but I have a few chinese friends who don't like Japan to put it midly. Anytime I or someone mentions Japan they will be like Japan bad, earthquakes, women have low status, their culture is bad, etc. When I ask them why they still feel this way when Japan occupied China a long time ago and they reply that the attitude is passed down generationally.
I find it interesting because I come from a country that was colonized by the British but I don't have this kind of enmity towards them because it is water under the bridge for me.
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Post by MTR on May 17, 2011 23:01:00 GMT -5
That's good because i was born in London (phew !!)but my ancestry is Irish so we suffered too. Sageuk i really like IYSS to me it is one of the 3 Great Korean Historicals (oh im sure that would jump to 4 if we could see Tears Of The Dragon ) the other two of course being AOW and EWG ,For all its flaws i still love it , There is a Japanese Historical though i advise every one to watch ,Its on Dramafever and its called JIN ,whoops sorry Dramacrazy its also on mysoju . Here is the link www.dramacrazy.net/japanese-drama/jinI am not a fan of time travel stuff at all but this is exceptional in a nutshell a modern day brain surgeon is transported back to the late Edo period at the fall of the Shogunate and faces a moral dilemma if he uses his skills to save people he cold alter history ,my words cannot do it justice . BTW it was a huge hit in Korea ,China ,Malaysia as well .
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Post by sageuk on May 17, 2011 23:36:30 GMT -5
Is Hwang Jini and Great King Sejong any good?
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Post by griffin on May 18, 2011 7:49:04 GMT -5
Oh golly, I caught some of Hwang Jini last year (I think) when it was aired and I was bored. Those were the eps at the beginning and yes, beginings tend to be slow but the focus was on the budding romance between her and a young fella (he's the unattainable love). And her training...I don't know, I don't really fancy watching young man going to watch her dance and whatever every morning and all the usual obstacles their respective guardians put up. In later parts, it was the usual fracas among gisaeng vying for this n that in their mini court, trying to outdo one another in dance, etc. Even when the story went to the royal court, it was on some dance or some music from the heroine that would ASTOUND the ambassador from China or whatever. Maybe it's not my luck to catch the more interesting eps but well, I wasn't interested in viewing this sageuk. It's prolly interesting to others though.
Didn't manage to catch Great Sejong, only one ep but there was some clash with other duties so I totally missed this one.
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Post by ajk on May 18, 2011 11:07:07 GMT -5
GKS was absolutely outstanding. I thought quality-wise it was just as good as IYSS, although it wasn't quite as engaging because it wasn't dealing with anything as dramatic as a nation fighting for its survival. And it made a strong effort to be historically accurate--even when they could have twisted the plotlines just a little bit to make things much more dramatic, they didn't. Some people here were bored by it because there wasn't a lot of action, but most people enjoyed it as much as I did. Definitely worth making the effort to watch.
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Post by MTR on May 18, 2011 13:49:51 GMT -5
Hwang Jini was stupid because Jini was never a dancer and the drama put her up to be this great dancer ,the real Jini was repulsed by the idea .The Ha Jiwon Jini was poles apart from the real one.
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Post by sageuk on May 18, 2011 14:19:12 GMT -5
Where do you get your information DYC? A past post of yours said that you liked it, but then again opinions change sometimes
She rejected dancing? That's a surprise considering kisaeng are known to be dancers. The only thing I know about Hwang Jini are those love poems she wrote
How's Sejong?
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Post by sageuk on May 18, 2011 16:13:00 GMT -5
Found out that in 1978, a film called Nanjung Ilgi was released, being a winner of the Grand Bell Award for Best Film. The actor playing Yi Soon Shin is the same actor in the 1980s Imjin War series. There's also a trailer, but you have to be a member of this sight to watch it. www.kmdb.or.kr/eng/md_basic.asp?nation=K&p_dataid=03167Its a shame that these old stuff can't be found nowadays unless you were alive back then. Do they even sell old movies? There was also a movie about Gwak Jae-u called The General in Red Robes in 1973. Also a horror movie of Non-gae, the gisaeng who took a samurai general with her to their deaths called Resurrection Of The Butterfly. Its out of stock and Region 3 DVD, so no hope in seeing it. According to the summary, the filmpostulates what would happen if Nongae failed in her noble suicide attempt. Then the horror thriller speculates on the possible rivalry that may have existed between Korean general Choi Kyung Whei and Japanese general Kimura over Nongae.
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Post by MTR on May 18, 2011 16:30:35 GMT -5
Wow amazing stuff On Jini i was able to borrow through the library this thesis from Harvard written by a Korean Student ,it was well researched and had lots a translations ,not just her poetry ,but her own diarys as well as contemporary accounts , She was a Kisaeng but was famous for her musical skills and her poetry which often lashed out at the government and men in general ,she had few lovers and got away with so much because she was the bastard daughter of a ranking minister ,also she refused to bathe had dreadlocks and wore funeral white at her poetry readings ,she was also stunningly beautiful and sadly died aged 40 of either TB or Cancer . www.kungfumovies.net/31640.html this is the all region Butterfly dvd .
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Post by sageuk on May 18, 2011 16:37:14 GMT -5
Where can I find these sources?
Funny. You seemed to like Hwangjini before, but I guess opinions change. How's the movie version?
Its funny. Wasn't there originally going to be a Non Gae drama? I had difficulty in seeing how they would do that
Do you think the IYSS Yi Soon SHin is close to the one in Nanjung Ilgi (outside of a few stuff)?
How's Sejong?
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Post by MTR on May 18, 2011 18:26:53 GMT -5
Sejong is great . I did like Jini until i read that book and saw how they went to left field with it and for no good reason as the real Jini is a great story .
SBS has had Nongae on hold for about 2 years .
Movie Jini has her as a rebel ,also stupid.
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Post by sageuk on May 18, 2011 19:30:36 GMT -5
Anything accurate about that drama? Even if a little? And judging on most people's reactions, most seem to prefer the series over the movie
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