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Post by MTR on Jan 17, 2009 17:27:22 GMT -5
The question i always forget to ask
we know the first Crown Princess was deposed any idea why ?
The series gives us no clue at all sadly .
Was it the son of the first Crown Princess or the Second that was exiled and murdered by Sejo ?
What happened to the two serving girls who were lovers of Crown Princess 2 .
This is my only gripe about the series (Aside from them running credits for characters long gone. )
We never see what happened to Hyobin and her son (well he was killed by Sejo )and many other characters that just fall off the landscape .
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Post by oasis6107 on Feb 10, 2009 13:56:11 GMT -5
Crown prince Hyang had no love for the first crown princess and didn't come to see her often, so she got pissed off and what she did was this : She stole the shoes of a court lady Hyang visited often and burned it, and put the ashes in the CP's drink. She had heard that it was a commonly used method among folk women to regain their husbands' love and used that on her husband. But, quite obviously, she was caught and was deposed instantly. After she returned home, she ended her life by suicide.
Sejo exiled and murdered the son of the third Crown Princess.
The lovers of Crown Princess 2 were slaughtered.
It's been a while since I last visited here so I don't know if you'll see my reply. If you do and have any more gripe about the other characters, I'll be glad to give any info.
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Post by MTR on Feb 10, 2009 18:59:38 GMT -5
Me Gripe ??no no no .
Thank you for filling in ,it is hard for those of us who do not speak Korean or read Hangul to find stuff on K History because so little has made it into Eng .
For example there are at least some 300 plus books on Sejong yet only 3 in English one being a kids book the other a Coffee table book on artifacts and the third an edited version of the final volume of a 10 vol set .
Soooo we do need people like yourself to help us .
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Post by ajk on Feb 11, 2009 11:50:54 GMT -5
Wow, I've heard of fillet of sole but that's ridiculous.
Great stuff, oasis, thanks for sharing it with us. Clears up a part of Hyang's life that was alluded to in the series but never explained. Plus, while the second princess' lovers were in the series, we never did find out what ultimately happened to them.
And that story about the shoes, I had to laugh. Why didn't she just throw them at him?
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Post by oasis6107 on Feb 13, 2009 1:44:39 GMT -5
domyoungchun - It's a pity that there is hardly any information about K history in English.  I admire you for at least finding those three books, though. I guess you can glean info about K history only from historical dramas for the time being, though I'm sorry to say that these days Korean historical dramas are becoming ridiculous fantasy dramas. I hope they cut it out soon.. ajk - Well.. Hyang is the future all-powerful, So maybe the first Crown Princess thought it was best to be polite and decided to put in the drink. ;D |
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Post by MTR on Mar 26, 2009 18:41:28 GMT -5
Fantasy Dramas well Iron Empress fits .
The best books on K History actually that i have found seem to be written by missionary's that were in Korea in the 19th century and had access to all kinds of material that now seems lost .
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Post by tinkerbell on Mar 28, 2009 13:12:03 GMT -5
This is all I've been able to find so far in regards to the Crown Princess:
Accounts of homosexual behavior among women in South Korea are scarcely recorded in official history. One of the rare exceptions is a royal record from the 15th century Choson Dynasty, during the reign of King Sejong, which reports that the King's daughter-in-law, Bongsi, caused a scandal for "mimicking" heterosexual relations with another woman. It is said that she preferred the company of other women to her husband and frequently slept with her maidservants. The royal cabinet stripped her of nobility and expelled her from the palace with accusations of lying, shaming the King, and harboring improper jealousy.
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Post by MTR on Mar 28, 2009 15:13:24 GMT -5
Its funny the term homosexuality really never existed in Asian Culture being Korea China and Japan where it was very much part of Samurai Culture in a similar way to the Spartan mythos ,
It was the advent of Christianity where it was deemed a sin .
Oda Nobunaga who was prone to relations with his pages used Homosexuality as a charge (one of many )against Warrior Monks (this brainstorm given to him by the Jesuit Louis Frois )so he could annihilate them .
The Ming Dynasty was a heaven for man on man action ,the notorious Whang Zen depicted in Sejong had Domchangan the spys /assassins group who were all gay (castrated but still the thought counts i guess )and kept the emperor plied with boys and girls so he could rule the country .
Not much is recorded in the Joseon Dynasty though we can probably assume they followed the example of Ming and Japan .
The funny thing though was Lesbianisim was a big no no all across the board in all three cultures and was a major crime so ''joy of a boy "no biggie but girl on girl is just not happening .
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I admire you for at least finding those three books, though. I guess you can glean info about K history only from historical dramas for the time being, though I'm sorry to say that these days Korean historical dramas are becoming ridiculous fantasy dramas. I hope they cut it out soon..