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Post by Knov1 on Dec 29, 2008 4:30:24 GMT -5
I thought the final episode didn't do the drama justice. For starters, the hero of the story had a crappy death scene. He gets stabbed, falls to the ground and is dead in a matter of seconds. No last hurrah for Jang Bo Go? The other characters had more memorable death scenes than he did. He did have a funeral and was mourned by everyone but I didn't think the scene was fitting for the main character of the series.
I'd like to know how Yeom Jang managed to get away from the scene of the crime. Weren't there guards all around there? You'd think he'd be easy to spot. Then again, characters in this drama seem to be masters at giving everyone the slip.
I thought it was odd that when Chae Ryung and Jung Hwa are trying to escape, CR grabbed the baby and held him right in front of the enemy soldiers. Wouldn't you want to shield him instead of putting him in harm's way?
Yeom Jang's death scene lasted a bit too long. The close-ups on YJ and JH seemed to go on forever. Speaking of Jung Hwa, why does everyone else die and she gets to live? If she was as close as she appeared to be in YJ's death scene, why weren't the soldiers shooting arrows at her?
This drama reminds of me Hong Gil Dong in the sense that it was good for X amount of episodes but the final episode was a disappointment. In its defense, and you'll hear me say this often, I tend to feel that way about most K-Drama endings. It's rare that I'll actually like the ending of a drama.
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Post by mugwump on Dec 29, 2008 8:51:56 GMT -5
A agree with all your comments. This story had a very abrupt and unsatisfying ending. In other shows even if the endings are bad, at least there's some sense of good triumphing over evil. Justice certainly did not prevail here. I don't consider it sufficient that Junghwa and the baby and the obnoxious father/son team survived. Too many others deserved to live as well (maybe more so). What were the writers thinking?
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Post by petitesweetie on Dec 29, 2008 11:16:59 GMT -5
You can think of Jung Hwa's survival like this... She has to live with the fact the she is the only that survived, and all of the what if's. Bogo's child will be a constant reminder of the past. Yeom made the comment how he wanted his last thoughts/images before death to be of Jung Hwa. Perhaps, the director was trying to emphasize that idea, therefore the long death scene. Then again, I'm probably just wront.
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Post by MTR on Dec 29, 2008 18:19:55 GMT -5
I dont know how they could end it any other way as this was the way the real Pogo died . As for the Musa inspired Finale well if the real response being nothing short of apathetic had been depicted people would have been pissed ,myself i was happy with the ending i was dreading that KBS may stick to the history (no chance )and bore everyone to death .
I Would have liked to see Yomjam stay alive as he did in real life and screw everything up in Changhae (Yommoon depending on subtitles but Yomjang was the name used in the version shown on AZN a few years back also in history ,i think Yom moon is just the chinese name >) In short it was Dae Jo Young goes to sea only shorter and better ,bearing in mind much of DJY seemed a remake of this 2004/5 drama . It is actually one of the best K Historical Drama's i have seen . This was actually made to keep the IYSS folks happy and keep them on board . This may be heretical but i thought EOTS was much better than IYSS . Aside from being shorter than IYSS the later was guilty of more blatant historical distortion than i have ever seen in a K drama (historical of course ). I know stuff like DJY is far from accurate but history is scant so we can forgive it ditto EOTS however on the Imjin War there is volumes . Not so much distorted i sort of take that back (aside from the horrendously inaccurate depiction of Samurai and late 16th century Japan and Wong Kyun what a makeover he got )its more all the great stuff they left out that could have made it better .
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Post by Nalbal on Dec 29, 2008 18:50:07 GMT -5
You summed up my own thoughts, Knov. I am VERY disappointed with the ending. When I watch a series for months, the characters become like close friends. I feel betrayed when a series ends like this, and I feel like I wasted my time. A great story like that of Goong-bok and Yeon deserves a better ending. Overall, I felt like the episode was RUSHED. It's as if the writers suddenly became bored and wanted to end everything all at once. What a turnoff! I am SO disappointed! I have not been so displeased with an ending since Winter Love Song... and this is a thousand times worse. Ugh. What a waste. Also... WHY DIDN'T THEY KILL JOONG-DAL OFF? I am disgusted that while all our valiant men were killed, he survived! Isn't it bad enough the other 'evil' men prevailed?
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Post by soapygrams on Dec 29, 2008 21:11:50 GMT -5
Nalbal - you are so RIGHT - why didn't they show that scumbag being beheaded at least? So many times I wanted to just reach into the TV and smack him with a rock LOL . . I am very disappointed in this ending . . it seems that Korean writers just cannot stand to end a series in a good way . . . they tend to rush into the ending and clean up a lot but NOT ALL the loose ends in the last episode - and it shortchanges the audience. Boo to them for doing that. I had given this show my undivided attention and because of this last episode being so . . outrageous - I really feel cheated. Not much can be done now however, but I sure hope no one wants my TRUE opinion of this show . . 'cause they will get my honest answer . . .
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Post by Knov1 on Dec 29, 2008 21:59:04 GMT -5
Also... WHY DIDN'T THEY KILL JOONG-DAL OFF? I am disgusted that while all our valiant men were killed, he survived! I forgot to mention him in my post. Yes, he needed to go. I am very disappointed in this ending . . it seems that Korean writers just cannot stand to end a series in a good way . . . they tend to rush into the ending and clean up a lot but NOT ALL the loose ends in the last episode - and it shortchanges the audience. Boo to them for doing that. I had given this show my undivided attention and because of this last episode being so . . outrageous - I really feel cheated. You actually bring up why I have such a problem with K-Drama endings. Not only do you feel cheated but it often changes how you feel about the drama. You'll be into a drama for X amount of episodes and the ending will leave you with a bad taste in your mouth.
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Post by BungalowDweller on Dec 29, 2008 22:24:41 GMT -5
Nalbal - you are so RIGHT - why didn't they show that scumbag being beheaded at least? So many times I wanted to just reach into the TV and smack him with a rock LOL . . I am very disappointed in this ending . . it seems that Korean writers just cannot stand to end a series in a good way . . . they tend to rush into the ending and clean up a lot but NOT ALL the loose ends in the last episode - and it shortchanges the audience. Boo to them for doing that. I had given this show my undivided attention and because of this last episode being so . . outrageous - I really feel cheated. Not much can be done now however, but I sure hope no one wants my TRUE opinion of this show . . 'cause they will get my honest answer . . . These latest historical dramas were ones I watched faithfully, although I didn't take part on the board discussion. The ending really bothered me alot and I just about wept in disappointment. I would have liked another ending, but I understand that what is a story for me (being an American and not Korean) is history for others. The challenge for me was that when one watches a story for a long time, alot of emotional investment is involved, much like reading a wonderful novel. When "things go bad"--when the good guys are butchered to a man and the evil ones go forward it is, in a sense a "betrayal" of one's sense of justice and "rightness". I was So angry at the ending that I refused to think about it and began to question why I've watched these dramas for over 10 years---I ought to know better---they often end "badly". But historical accuracy is more important than entertainment value and there are some wonderful life lessons to be learned from many of these shows---but Not this one. I much prefer AOW and IYSS to this.
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Post by soapygrams on Dec 30, 2008 2:37:39 GMT -5
BG you have a good point about being historically correct - HOWEVER - from what I understand about EOTS, it has a whole lot more fiction than historical fact. So if that's the case, the writers have no excuse for being lame when it comes to ending an otherwise fairly good story. If this had been historically correct, many of the characters would not even be in this story LOL - and the end would have been very different. I think the writers of many of the K-dramas, both historical and modern, should take remedial creative writing classes to be reminded of how to end a story. JMHO . .
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Post by kathleen34 on Dec 30, 2008 7:55:53 GMT -5
I was So angry at the ending that I refused to think about it and began to question why I've watched these dramas for over 10 years---I ought to know better---they often end "badly". But historical accuracy is more important than entertainment value and there are some wonderful life lessons to be learned from many of these shows---but Not this one.
Nicely stated BG I don't know if you watched King Sejong, but it ended last nite. It was well done... bordering on elegance. The ending of EOS was perhaps historically accurate. But we all hate it when the bad guys win. I wish there had been a prologue giving us some history of Bogo's little son.
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Post by sayuri on Dec 30, 2008 11:18:17 GMT -5
I agree,it was a very tough ending to watch!I was crying through the whole show.Some shows just blow me away when the bad guys win.UGH!!!It was too much.I really was hoping to see the bad guys get their just deserts.
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Post by mikey on Dec 30, 2008 12:56:45 GMT -5
In a strange way, I kind of liked the ending. Even though the "bad guys won," it was historically correct. Had it been otherwise, I think it would have been hardly different from a drama show about the American Civil War concluding with Abraham Lincoln surviving the assassination attempt at Ford’s Theater, and then going on to live a long, happy life. Who among us would have ever bought that?
I kind of wish they’d kept the harsh (but factual) ending, and instead cleaned up a lot of the fictional nonsense that appeared elsewhere in the show. And topping the list for deletion is that Joong-dal character, who was a bad joke from the very beginning. Every time he appeared, he detracted from the show.
I do agree completely that the final episode seemed badly rushed. I think adding just one additional wrap-up episode could have given us a much more satisfying ending overall.
I liked EOTS a lot, but it’s distressing to think about just how great this drama could have been with a few minor changes.
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Post by BungalowDweller on Dec 30, 2008 17:54:41 GMT -5
I was So angry at the ending that I refused to think about it and began to question why I've watched these dramas for over 10 years---I ought to know better---they often end "badly". But historical accuracy is more important than entertainment value and there are some wonderful life lessons to be learned from many of these shows---but Not this one. Nicely stated BG I don't know if you watched King Sejong, but it ended last nite. It was well done... bordering on elegance. The ending of EOS was perhaps historically accurate. But we all hate it when the bad guys win. I wish there had been a prologue giving us some history of Bogo's little son. Hi, Kathleen! And Happy New Year! Yes---I've followed King Sejong and loved it! I wish we have more like that in future.
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Post by zorro on Dec 31, 2008 10:08:10 GMT -5
Excellent comments from everyone, and Mugwump's awards are most amusing. I was miffed how fast the WOCH logo came up out of nowhere to obscure any ending credits or at least a "Thank you for watching… The End" screen. What a gyp. A more fitting title might have been "Ambassador of the Land" since he was never "Emperor", nor really "of the Sea". He really couldn't be at sea, because Chae Ryung was always seasick. The last line by Jung-hwa really bugged me. Didn't "Baby" have a name? And why would she want to send him back "along this route someday" to a land where he would probably have a nice price on his head? And one last comment on her… just once I would have liked to hear her scream bloody murder instead if just popping her eyes over and over. Shades of Chulin. Too bad they couldn't have flashed forward 20 years (of course Jung-hwa would look exactly the same) and have "Baby" hunt down and slice up Kim Yang and "Sa Bagu". The only icing to that cake would be to then have the grimacing Joong-dal run up and beg to be taken in by his "new Master"… only to be whacked right there on the spot. Now "that" would be an ending.
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Post by soapygrams on Dec 31, 2008 15:00:07 GMT -5
;D Zorro, your last paragraph is EXCELLENT - I would so love to see Joon-dal get "offed" . . . oh well . . guess I'll just have to be content that he is a fictional character, so doesn't really count at ail. . . But . . . my thirst for revenge isn't satisfied with that LOL . . aiguii . .
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