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Post by bellyofthebeast on Aug 1, 2005 11:33:13 GMT -5
I love the this show. As a fan of its great story telling I wanna examine the story from top to bottom. I was kinda confused with the ranks in the military. Nobody here talks about it probably because they've seen more of it then I. The main think is I didn't understand the relevence behind certain titles. I wasn't watching the show when ?Jong Jung-bu? and his clan was tyranzing the government. I assume that was the point where the show explanned the cast system in the military as well as the government. For a long time I didnt know what the term "Archfiend" meant. I thought it was the title of the guy who led the Central Commitee. 1. What is a Imperial Gaurdian? When Yi-min got that title it didnt seem to change anything. Its like he couldnt get any more power unless he actually put himself on the throne. 2. I didnt fully understand the rule of the Central Commitee. Im guessing the central commitee contral military issues while the royal court handled state issues. Oh, and did the Central Commitee have any say in the government on issues besides the military. What role did Yi-min have during his time as the leader of the military as well as the central commitee? 3. After the Archfiend came back from crushing the Shilla army led by Jasun and that young looking monk guy I was confused by how minister Du became a merit subject and how he placed the Archfiend on house arrest. I didn't understand how and why Du got the title Merit subject. The Archfiend was confused and I was even more confused.
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Post by skinz on Aug 1, 2005 14:41:10 GMT -5
1. What is a Imperial Gaurdian? When Yi-min got that title it didnt seem to change anything. Its like he couldnt get any more power unless he actually put himself on the throne. The Imperial Guardian is the high minister of the royal officials in court,the prime minister if you will. The Imperial Guardian controls state affairs. During the series, many took the role of this rank. Yi Ui Bang, Chung Bu, Yi Ui Min, and finally Choi Choong Hon. Unfortunately, many earlier warriors didn't like the royal officials and did not implement them in their goals, Only Choi Choong Hon used the royal officials to his advantage. Also, all of them were military soldiers that had no idea on how to govern a country, that's why they never took the throne for themselves even though they were tempted. 2. I didnt fully understand the rule of the Central Commitee. Im guessing the central commitee contral military issues while the royal court handled state issues. Oh, and did the Central Commitee have any say in the government on issues besides the military. What role did Yi-min have during his time as the leader of the military as well as the central commitee? Right you are. The Central Committee controlled military affairs. However, the royal court were still above them and treated them like idiots who couldn't govern themselves. The military leaders wanted to established the central committee as a vital force in the state and not just some group of warriors sent out the kill by the court. The Head of the Committee was also the head of military actions. Four of the six characters who held this position also were the imperial guardian also. Yi Ui Bang Chung Bu Yi Ui Min Choi Choong Hon The other two who were leaders of the military were General Cho and Kyung Dae Sung. Both never took the title of imperial guardian. 3. After the Archfiend came back from crushing the Shilla army led by Jasun and that young looking monk guy I was confused by how minister Du became a merit subject and how he placed the Archfiend on house arrest. I didn't understand how and why Du got the title Merit subject. The Archfiend was confused and I was even more confused. I'm not quite sure but I think General Du got elevated because of his services against the silla army while Yi Ui Min was given a less higher merit because the king was still suspicious on his motives. General Choi Choong Hon also got elevated to general for the same act. Also, Yi Ui Min was given the title "Archfiend" because he killed the most of royal officials when the rebellion started. hoped I helped.
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Post by bellyofthebeast on Aug 2, 2005 11:57:19 GMT -5
What is a merit subject. I think they are different levels right? What about a chief convoy. I don't think there was one when I started watching. You guys seem to talk a lot about that guy named Kyaung Dae Sueng. He had that title. I ment to ask the last time I wrote.
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Post by belly of the beast on Oct 1, 2005 11:16:34 GMT -5
Is any one know the answer to this question
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Post by belly of the beast on Oct 1, 2005 11:17:01 GMT -5
does any one know the answer to this question
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Post by ginnycat5 on Oct 1, 2005 18:16:16 GMT -5
Did you see any episodes with Kyung Dae Sung? It was heartbreaking to me. He wanted to help the country and had the purest motives of any military general, but he was the one the king mistrusted the most and was completely misunderstood, at least as AOW showed him. (He did have his private army, but they were helping the people.)
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Post by Eowyn on Oct 4, 2005 7:19:09 GMT -5
I believe the Chief Convoy was assigned to protect the palace and the royal family. Merit subjects were so elevated because they performed great service to king and country. And yes, there were many levels like Buksang, Concord, and Restoration. I hope my info is correct. Anyone feel free to correct me.
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Post by seven stars on Oct 11, 2005 10:07:02 GMT -5
Did you see any episodes with Kyung Dae Sung? It was heartbreaking to me. He wanted to help the country and had the purest motives of any military general, but he was the one the king mistrusted the most and was completely misunderstood, at least as AOW showed him. (He did have his private army, but they were helping the people.) It was unfortunate ginnycat. I liked the silk laden character myself (despite his taste in apparel). It's my opinion that the historical fact that KDS founded a militia such as Dobang serves as an indichtment against him. Though he is revered as a hero, his willingness to develop his own position of strength leads me to believe that he may have at least flirted with the idea of revolution. That aside, his commitment to the people is also an accepted truth. To give his families lands back to the peasants was truly the mark of a progressive thinker. He's got my vote! I believe that KDS was the only true hero in the entire story, though I do not dispute that many of them were great warriors.
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Post by alex on Oct 11, 2005 19:43:02 GMT -5
I think the reason KDS appeared in robes a lot in the show was partly because he never held a official post in the government. So he didn't need to dress as other civil cervants did in the palace court. KDS never had a postion in the goverment but whenever important political task comes up he went up to the emperor and simply stated what he thought and wanted and the emperor did as he said. ( and he was only 26 when he seized the power!!) His death was so heartbreaking for me too, considering the fact that he was the only righteous general in the whole show.
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