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Post by NotRegular on Jan 21, 2008 1:08:09 GMT -5
In DJY's time, the religion was Buddhism. Christianity via Catholic Missionaries, came later. They flourished and grew at a rate that made leaders frighten. Hence persecution against Christianity. Today there are more Protestants than Catholics if you add up all the different small groups of Protestants. But when Koreans say Christains in general, meaning Catholics as this is the group they respect most and more friendly with. but in DJY's time, no Christianity. Buddhism existed as you can see in the show have statues of Buddha and DJY's wife kneeling before statue. Also, you see ancenstorial worship in the show? Some believe their parents were like Gods or their leaders, formerly alive but now looking over them in higher world. So I think there can be no intention to make DJY seem like Jesus Christ.
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Post by tinkerbell on Jan 22, 2008 16:55:51 GMT -5
Welcome NotRegular.
I know the main religion was Buddhism at the time of DJY. What we are saying is the writers of the show have written certain scenes that are hard to overlook and many of us see them as references to Christ, the Savior, or details of His life.
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Post by ajk on Jan 22, 2008 17:44:27 GMT -5
That's what I'd say too, tinkerbell. I don't think anyone is claiming that the series is portraying DJY as a Christian savior, only that the writers are obviously borrowing some things from the story of Christ's life and adding them into the story of the DJY character.
But yes it has been interesting to see the examples of ancestor-worship, especially the scenes in Ansi fort where they made a shrine to Yang Manchun.
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Post by NotRegular on Jan 22, 2008 22:38:21 GMT -5
Thank you all for nice welcome. I am happy to visit here from time to time.
Please you go to forums in Korea and read the comments. When washing feet, people comment is at last Gulsabiwa make attempt to woo Geumlan. No comments on DJY recovery from serious wounds.
I am not Christian. But I checked internet. Jesus' friend died and he brought him back to life after 3 days. Jesus died and his father raised him. DJY never died. Only very very hurt. It is not the same. This kind of theme is common in Asian films. If you see Chinese movies, it is the same. Except Chinese not so good actors like Koreans! It shows the hero make many sacrifices for his people. He is down but continues to fight for his people.
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Post by TheBo on Jan 23, 2008 10:38:34 GMT -5
Hi, guys, I hope this is not getting upsetting to people. There is a tendency to apply one's own cultural background to whatever one sees on TV or in movies. The fact that people can do so, even when they come from vastly different traditions, really shows how similar all of our cultural stories are to each other. We're more alike than we think we are, eh?
Bo
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Post by tinkerbell on Jan 23, 2008 19:27:15 GMT -5
If you see Chinese movies, it is the same. Except Chinese not so good actors like Koreans! I had to chuckle at your comment. It's nice to see you have a sense of humor. NotRegular, We see what you are saying. Yes, DJY did not die or was he raised from the dead ,and we understand that Gulsabiwu was wooing or showing his affection (finally) for Geumlan.There are certain scenes or references that Christians would recognize from the Bible. There are traditions, beliefs, or practices from the Korean culture that we have learned from watching these dramas. It just goes to show how different cultures, different beliefs, or people from different backgrounds can view the same show and sometimes get a slightly different view as ajk, TheBo, myself and others have expressed. There is no disrespect intended and we welcome your view as you seem to be Korean. We would be interested in reading some of the Korean forums you mentioned. Could you give us any links or web addresses for us to check out?
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Post by NotRegular on Jan 24, 2008 1:54:08 GMT -5
I have the links in my PC. But here is 3 that you can check now: www.soompi.com/forums/www.rukorean.com/dramayouphim.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13833I hope you know I am not upset or offended. Excuse my poor expression. TheBo says what I want to say very well. That maybe its because of who you are that you think of the link to Jesus when you watch DJY. I take no offense. Jesus did a lot of good and I have great respect and admiration for the work the Catholic Church has done in Korea. The world is small. Often we find we are all very similar. But at times, one slight difference can become very major. Especially when the difference touch on religion or politics. So please accept that I am not offended.
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Post by tinkerbell on Jan 24, 2008 12:14:44 GMT -5
Thanks NotRegular.
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Post by TheBo on Jan 24, 2008 15:27:11 GMT -5
Oh, good, I just wanted to make sure everyone is happy and understanding each other. Good, good...
;D
Bo
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Post by tinkerbell on Jan 25, 2008 17:48:34 GMT -5
You're so funny Bo, yes we are behaving ourselves.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 10, 2008 17:43:14 GMT -5
Did you see the ad at the top of this thread? Take this quiz and find the perfect religion for you! I'm afraid to click on it. All the T's in the writing are crosses. Should I guess what religion I'll be directed to?
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Post by soapygrams on Feb 10, 2008 19:10:17 GMT -5
Did you see the ad at the top of this thread? Take this quiz and find the perfect religion for you! I'm afraid to click on it. ::)All the T's in the writing are crosses. Should I guess what religion I'll be directed to? Oh Ginny, your post intrigued me so I clicked on all of the above sites. The first one is adverts and a site to order on-line books about religion/fantasy; novels. The second one is a Catholic based site with links to various topics, from a monastery in NY; the third is a site about Jesus Christ and offers reasons and rebuttal about why JC is God's son; and the last - and I must say I laughed out loud at this one - is a "Christian Singles" site - when I clicked on it, in the left margin was a pix of a young woman dressed in a crop top and a mini skirt - for Hispanic singles LOL Your comment about all the crosses on Ts made me laugh ;D- but then I ALWAYS cross my tees and dot my iiiis - don't you? LOL
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Post by seven stars on Feb 11, 2008 8:40:19 GMT -5
What's all this about I's and T's.
Are you guys a bunch of techies or what?
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Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 11, 2008 15:56:04 GMT -5
Did you see the ad at the top of this thread? Take this quiz and find the perfect religion for you! I'm afraid to click on it. ::)All the T's in the writing are crosses. Should I guess what religion I'll be directed to? Oh Ginny, your post intrigued me so I clicked on all of the above sites. The first one is adverts and a site to order on-line books about religion/fantasy; novels. The second one is a Catholic based site with links to various topics, from a monastery in NY; the third is a site about Jesus Christ and offers reasons and rebuttal about why JC is God's son; and the last - and I must say I laughed out loud at this one - is a "Christian Singles" site - when I clicked on it, in the left margin was a pix of a young woman dressed in a crop top and a mini skirt - for Hispanic singles LOL Your comment about all the crosses on Ts made me laugh ;D- but then I ALWAYS cross my tees and dot my iiiis - don't you? LOL Hi, Soapygrams, I only had one big ad. The t's were like carved wooden crosses. It wasn't there just now. I'll look on page 1 of this thread and let you know if it's there now.\ Okayyy, it isn't there, there's only one page of this thread, and the single ad now is for the tv show Monk. lol.
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Post by seven stars on Feb 11, 2008 16:34:24 GMT -5
Socially speaking, I can see the Christ analogy due to DJY's portrayal as a savior figure redeeming the Gogoryeo and tribal peoples from a diminished existence and establishing a new kingdom. However, one of the key differences is the fact that Christ's movement was in essence a non-violent one while the same is clearly untrue of the Gogoryeo revival movement that resulted in the founding of the Balhae kingdom. (I should point out that I make this statement from a position of ignorance as far as Gogoryeo and Balhae are concerned. All I know is what I'm watching.)
For this reason I would point to Ghandi as more a Christ figure than is Dae Joyoung. He also led a kind of revolution delivering his people from the domination of outside forces. While both he and DJY were successful in this endeavor one used peace, the other used war.
I recognize that the two revolutions are not perfectly comparable from a cultural contextual standpoint. Ghandi was dealing with a 20th century western power whereas DJY contended with ancient China. Having said that, I am going to resist the prevailing tendency to view the modern west as so perfectly sanctimonious and civilized in comparison with the far east. Many of the atrocities we hear about in other parts of the world also take place and are hidden or rationalized away in our so-called civilized society.
Another important point is the fact that Christ followers would view his movement as spiritual first, then social. Both of the aforementioned movements are characterized by the same purposes but in the opposite order.
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