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Post by Lucy on Aug 6, 2007 13:26:59 GMT -5
Does anyone think it's going to be a problem that Taesop's stepfather is also Jiyeon's sisters' father? I missed some of the early episodes, so I don't know exactly what the relation is between the "sisters," but I did gather that she is not a blood sister, or at least that she doesn't have the same father as the older two. Right?
But anyway, if TS and JY really get engaged, as I hope they will (wimpy Junho doesn't deserve her), I feel that, regardless of whether there is any blood relation between the two, the fact that his stepdad is also the girls' father is going to derail the relationship. I hope not!
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Post by kathleen34 on Aug 6, 2007 13:56:43 GMT -5
I cannot imagine that the relationship would blossom and grow. Both mothers are so very nice and adore their families... but who knows,... naw, I can't imagine a happily-ever-after ending here. OK, get out the tar and fearters, call FedEx and have it all deliverd to me in Oak Park... I, and I alone ( probably) am holding out for Junho. Grandma seems to be leaning that way as well. Junho really loves his exwife and daughter. And again, 'for better or worse' isn't just poetry. It's a vow, a promise. Yes, Junho made a gargantuel error in having an affair with DevilWoman. But it's not like it carried on for the better part of the year. And some men are ... well, weak, and stupid. The frailty of mankind is such a glaring fact of life. And Jiyeon, while she rationalized her gargantuan lie to Junho to the max, it was still a lie. Her frailty was an issue as well. They each did a splendid job in betraying each other. They each got an A+ in Betrayal 101. And they each got an A+ in Humanity. The little girl is so sweet and I can just feel for Grandpa in his tears of sadness ... and of joy. Seems that nobody goes to counseling in these dramas. Their decisions are made upon salient issues. I won't be home to sign for the tar and feathers, so please do not request a signature upon receipt.
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Post by Lucy on Aug 6, 2007 16:47:54 GMT -5
Well, I won't push for tarring and feathering you, Kathleen , but my sympathies are definitely with Jiyeon and the choices she's made. She didn't divorce Junho because she was vicious or vengeful (despite what her awful MIL says). I think it was because she loved him so much that she made him her whole world, and when he, in his weakness, cavalierly betrayed her and their love, she physically could not stand to be around him anymore. As she said, he wasn’t the same Junho to her anymore. It seems it would have been torture to her to go on with him. For me, the deal breaker is the harridan of a MIL she had hanging around her neck as part of the bargain. I could not stand to be around that woman for more than five minutes. As JY said the other day, she could put up with her MIL gladly before because of her love for Junho, but can you imagine having to deal with those constant iterations of superiority and hostility while trying to get over your husband’s infidelity? It’s just too much to bear. Also, Jiyeon said she was only lying temporarily and that she would tell Eunji about her father in time. I know that’s not the same as coming clean from the start, but when you’re feeling as frail as Jiyeon was around the time of the divorce, beating a full and hasty retreat certainly does seem to be the order of the day. She had to protect herself from all the ungodly awfulness coming from Junho and his family. All this is to say why I favor Taesop, who treasures her. I don’t like the way people disrespect Jiyeon’s well-thought-out choices, poor thing. She didn’t do anything to harm anyone, just to protect herself and her child. Unfortunately, the bubble she and Eunji were living in can’t last, but at least she could get away from Junho and all the trouble he represents. I mean, what he did killed her love for him, and that really can’t be helped. This being a Korean drama, his family’s not going to change, and he’s probably not going to earn her love back, but rather she’s going to end up doing “the right thing,” which was the opposite of what she wanted. Oy, the long-suffering heroines! I wish one of them could be selfish for once without being made into a villain.
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Post by PippiBella on Aug 6, 2007 17:59:47 GMT -5
I want jyeon with taesop.. but i feel too good to be true..
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Post by soapygrams on Aug 6, 2007 20:12:35 GMT -5
Kathleen, She may have forgiven Junho but do you really think it's that easy to forget a husband's infidelity? Believe me, it IS NOT! It doesn't matter if he was betraying her for a month, a year or some other time period. The fact that it was MORE THAN ONCE especially AFTER he promised her he would not see the Homewrecker again but every time that witch called, he went running like a little puppy. He makes me sick. Having been in that type of situation, I cannot understand how other people think a wife should just shrug it off as though it was "just one of those things" that little boys do so get over it. As far as I remember, the wedding vows include BOTH husband and wife swearing fidelity to each other. If you don't have that - why bother getting married? If it's okay for the husband to run around and sleep with other women, especially the SAME woman over and over again, what's the wife supposed to do? I sure hope she can find some happiness with Taesop - she deserves it. She has a soft heart and that's why she allowed grandpa to visit with his granddaughter. Even grandpa told Junho he was a stupid fool. Jiyeon should be able to find some happiness without a second thought about Mr."Loose Zipper"
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Post by teacher on Aug 6, 2007 22:06:30 GMT -5
I offer a BIG "Amen" to that, Soapygrams!!!
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Post by zorro on Aug 6, 2007 22:35:34 GMT -5
Taesop and Jiyeon are both "too nice" if you ask me, he seems anything but a detective. While they do make a nice match, I think they're in for a world of resistance from all sides.
One scene I would liked to have have seen differently was when Hayeong forced a meeting with Jiyeon to tell her that Junho calling off their engagement would "never have happened if JY hadn't told JH about Eunji being his."
I just wish the writers would have let Jiyeon say: "Well this never would have happened either if you hadn't ****** my husband!!"
But like I said, she's too nice.
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Post by brenda on Aug 7, 2007 0:16:58 GMT -5
back to taesop's step father, if jiyeon's 2 sisters are his blood daughters, then who is jiyeon's blood father?
as far as 'til death do us part" vs "infidelity", I believe in the 1st, but.... infidelity is not acceptable. especially since he kept going back to her. look what happened when he came back from the states. what does he do, he gets engaged to the same woman who he had an affair with! if he reallly felt he had done wrong & was truly sorry, he should be telling her to get lost, especially when she has the nerve to keep contacting his mother. I have to give these polite people credit, if I were in any of these situations I would constantly be telling them off or where to take their opinoins!
again, back to taesop's father, if jiyeon is not his blood daughter, then taesop & her should be okay to marry, but the more jiyeon lets eunji see her ex-in-laws, the more I get this awful feeling that she may do the "wrong" thing for eunji. (get back with junho).
eeeeekkkk!!!! I hope not!!
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Post by fan on Aug 7, 2007 4:22:55 GMT -5
Yes, I understand what you mean. But is it better that Junho turned back to the same woman or to another woman althogether? Is he supposed to show his repentance by living like a monk for the rest of his life? I really dunno! I just don't really feel comfortable with saying that since a spouse is unfaithful, the marriage cannot survive. You mean if the spouse did something else like take drugs, gamble, even lend all the money away, etc. everything can be forgiven but not infidelity.
Jiyeon is the natural daughter of Taessop's step-father. It is the woman who raised her who is not her biological mother. Now, you see the mother is the one who has been living with all this bitterness and anger towards the father all these years. The father has moved on, learnt from his lesson and been a good husband and father to his second family. Who is the one really healed of the past? The one holding on tighly to righteous anger at being the victim of an unfaithful husband or the repented one who learnt his lesson?
I honestly hope that Tassop and Jiyon do not get back together. It’s a bit freaky. Kind of remind me of this soap opera I watched when I was in the US. I forgot the title, beautiful something. This young girl had an affair with a married man who left his wife for her. Later while wife of this man, she has affair with his eldest son. Left father for son. Then had affair with his brother! In the end she ended up marrying and re-marrying the 3 men, her grown-up daughter's (fast forward many years - all the children grown up but adults still look the same and still playing same games) husband and other men. Mind you she is a career woman, not a prostitute! And if this is not disgusting enough, never mind. Her son with the father is now seeing the daughter of the eldest son who she is now planning to remarry for the 3rd or 4th time! And this is day time opera, so young children can watch! Aiyah!! I never watch the show after I figure out the family dynamics. And somehow this twist with Taesop's step-father being Jiyeon's father just reminds me of this disgusting soap opera.
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Post by kathleen34 on Aug 7, 2007 5:06:35 GMT -5
Kathleen, She may have forgiven Junho but do you really think it's that easy to forget a husband's infidelity? Believe me, it IS NOT! No soapygrams, I surely never suggested that it was easy to forget a husband's infidelity. My former husband died 11 years ago - he had an ongoing affair with my best friend. Our 2 children were under 4. And I'll never forget how my life changed. Within my heart though, forgiveness was the fact of life by which I would raise our sons to love and respect their father. Sappy? Yes. Stupid? Maybe. While infidelity is devastating, fan is right in stating that there are many things as bad... even worse than infideltiy. Anyway, back to the writers of this drama. My heart is with grandpa ... and grandma, and the little girl.
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Post by Lucy on Aug 7, 2007 13:54:21 GMT -5
So Jiyeon is the half-sister of the other two? Interesting. I thought, based on things the mother has said, that Jiyeon wasn't related to anyone in the house except by adoption. Thanks for clearing it up. If that's true, then bye-bye to Taesop. No one in a Korean drama would marry someone their biological father's step-son. Too close to incest, even though they're not blood relations.
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Post by brenda on Aug 7, 2007 22:04:15 GMT -5
fan, I do believe marriage IS for better or worse, & in sickness & in health. I have to look at infidelity as a sickness, but one of the differences btwn the 2, is that infidelity doesn't play with you're personal ----- I want to say confidence, but that's not it. anyways , it seems to affect your self-esteem, but then again, if it was another type of sickness, like an incurrable one, i'd pray it was less important like infidelity, am I coming across? sometimes, I can't put my thoughts into words. I just would rather my spouse be alive no matter what. oh well, thanks for clearing up the father/step father thing. lucy, I , too, figure it would definitely be improper for jiyeon & taesop to marry in this case, but I remember a bit ago, [ ]
since jiyeon's mom is an adopted mom, then have they ever shown who her biological mother is?
fan, you're info on that usa soap memory confuses me, I got lost. i'll have to reread that. thanks again.
for those of you that feel infidelity is forgiveable, how many times is forgiveable? I hope I never have, or I reallly can say, I know I won't ever have to worry about it! (ya, ya, I know that's what everyone says, but both of us are strong believers of fidelity)
so again, are jiyeon's two sisters step daddy's biological daughters? I believe his wife did just ask him about his daughters in the last episode or two.
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Post by gpaul on Aug 8, 2007 7:02:02 GMT -5
In a very early episode it was brought out that Jiyeon's biological father had an affair, Jiyeon being the result of the affair. The mother took in Jiyeon as her daughter but kicked out the husband, who then was able to go on with his life and remarried the woman who is Taesop's mother. I am sure that one of the reasons that Jiyeon had such a hard time forgiving Junho was because of the behavior of her own father, and the fact that her mother was never able to forgive her former husband.
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Post by brenda on Aug 9, 2007 16:28:17 GMT -5
now i'm reallly confused, gpaul. if jiyeon's mother is her biological mom & the two sisters are jiyeon's 1/2 sisters, then who are their biological mothers? cuz taesop's step mom mentioned she understood why her hubby gave "his" daughter & her hubby $10,000 for the business, etc. so that makes at least one of jiyeon's sisters having the same father, which is taesop's step father. so did jiyeon's mother adopt her? then what about her other sister, the one who's single? someone please help me! ugh!!! ??
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Post by PippiBella on Aug 9, 2007 18:11:15 GMT -5
Taesops step father is jisuk, jyeon and jiseons dad. jiseon and jisuks mom is not jyeons biological mom. taesops dad died. ( biological) i hope i did not confuse you, .
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