badtz
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Post by badtz on Feb 1, 2007 14:19:14 GMT -5
Okay, not sure why he got so sick just from being outside in the rain. But that's drama I suppose. Can anyone explain why Eunho's father refused to give him a proper funeral? "He died too young" just doesn't work for me. Also, what does a proper Korean funeral involve?
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Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 1, 2007 16:12:56 GMT -5
"Just throw him anywhere." I'm speechless.
Wasn't there a scene, maybe in a preview, where his mother said (or someone said) Eunho can sleep with her once and get it out of his system, then marry the other girl. But it didn't happen.
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Post by djanggum on Feb 1, 2007 17:09:04 GMT -5
Okay, not sure why he got so sick just from being outside in the rain. But that's drama I suppose. Can anyone explain why Eunho's father refused to give him a proper funeral? "He died too young" just doesn't work for me. Also, what does a proper Korean funeral involve? Eunho's father didn't want to hold a funeral because he was furious and at the same time ashamed of his son. He could not believe that Eunho could trash his studies and his family to love a gisaeng (Jinyi)...
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Post by BAE on Feb 1, 2007 17:48:28 GMT -5
Okay, not sure why he got so sick just from being outside in the rain. But that's drama I suppose. Can anyone explain why Eunho's father refused to give him a proper funeral? "He died too young" just doesn't work for me. Also, what does a proper Korean funeral involve? It was so heartless the way the father just allowed Eunho to be buried without the proper funeral rites. It just broke his mother's heart, but she shouldn't have been so stubborn then, should she? Jini said that he didn't like the rain and that he got sick a bit easily. Maybe it was pneumonia and they didn't know how to treat it back then? About Korean funerals... I found this site www.asianinfo.org/asianinfo/korea/cel/funeral_rites.htm while browsing google. The article really articulates what the funeral process is like. Hope it helps.
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Post by Albie on Feb 1, 2007 18:01:42 GMT -5
Actually I'm confused. Why is this being repeated. I saw this in the beginning episodes or am I wrong? Is this a flashback?
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badtz
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Post by badtz on Feb 1, 2007 18:57:23 GMT -5
ginnycat- There was scene like that, when Eunho gave his petition to the other girls father. I think he is the governor/mayor. But eunho refused. That was the same man who encouraged Eunho's father to spend the night with Jini after she played during the ball. What a creep!
Bae- Thanks for the funeral rites info. Do you think that is partly why Jini layed her coat on the coffin? Part of the rite would have been to take a coat on the roof then cover the coffin with it, but obviously his family hadn't done it.
What was the thing that Eunho's mother threw down when she told him he could leave after he watched her die? There is so much of that on the show- by which I mean threats to kill someone or for someone to ask to be killed.
I did like when Jini said she would pay back all of the noblemen in Korea and Baekju for the pain they caused her.
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Post by BAE on Feb 1, 2007 19:06:10 GMT -5
This hasn't been repeated Albie. We're on Episode 9 and this news about his death and lack of burial was just aired.
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Post by BAE on Feb 1, 2007 19:07:59 GMT -5
Bae- Thanks for the funeral rites info. Do you think that is partly why Jini layed her coat on the coffin? Part of the rite would have been to take a coat on the roof then cover the coffin with it, but obviously his family hadn't done it. No problem, badtz. I think that's exactly why she put her hanbok jacket on his coffin... So that he wouldn't be cold again and so that he would be able to pass on... his cart was stuck in the mud. Very subtly symbolic last few scenes. Loved the direction.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 2, 2007 15:14:14 GMT -5
badtz, it looked like a knife in a sheath to me. She was saying, Just kill me, then you can do what you want. He was going to disobey anyway, couldn't he have lied and said,All right, you win, grump grump, head hanging, then sneaked out later? Guess she could have had him locked in a shed, tho. But if he was so susceptible, sheesh, how could the mother have let him get so sick?
It all fell apart after Jini's friend squealed on her. Wonder if she'll speak to her again.
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Post by badtz on Feb 3, 2007 19:23:50 GMT -5
ginnycat you're probably right about it being a knife. Very small knife though, to kill someone with. It's no excuse for what Eunho did, but I thought he was torn between the love he felt for Jini and not wanting to disappoint his mother by becoming like his father (with the gisaeng and the mistresses.) I think Baekmu was probably right in the episode before when she said to leave the lovebirds alone and they would separate in time. Of course she doesn't have the most optimistic view of love.
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Post by teacher on Feb 3, 2007 19:38:04 GMT -5
It appears to be the same kind of "throwing knife" that we've been seeing in the last two or three episodes of DJY.
When it was suggested that Eunho could sleep with Jini for one night, but then would have to marry the other girl, he said that he couldn't do that. He wanted to marry her, and not just sleep with her.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 5, 2007 18:09:53 GMT -5
Thanks, badtz and teacher. I was hoping it had been a preview, then he went and died! In one episode!
Yes, that was a small knife, but the mother first, had it on her, and second, knew he wouldn't use it.
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Post by teacher on Feb 14, 2007 22:43:45 GMT -5
I found two interesting theories about Eunho and his love and death in the Nov. 2006 copy of Asta Magazine.
"Most first loves vanish like short heartbreaking dreams. If Eunho had been smart enough to know from the beginning that a love between a nobleman and a gisaeng must have a bad ending, what would have happened? Perhaps he would have escaped death. Status gap was not the only reason he lost his love. His love was not strong enough and he was not determined enough. Wavered by his mother's anger and embarrassed by his father's scheme, Eunho allowed his love to yield, to become a sickness. His love became death. Because only then could his soul watch over Hwang-Jin Yi forever."
"Forced to sever ties with Hwang Jin Yi, Eunho chose death over a lifetime of yearning for his love. When the funeral procession passed by her house in the heavy rain, the bearers were unable to move his coffin. It seemed even in death, he could not renounce his love for her. She laid her jacket over his coffin, as if trying to soothe his soul's pain. Expressing her deep and everlasting love to him, she soothed the sorrow of the deceased. Only then could the funeral procession move forward. Those who saw the young lovers' parting, turned their faces away, as they could not stand the sight of such heartbreak. Rain poured down heavily as a beautiful love vanished. That day she vowed to fight the world and chief gisaeng, Bek-Mu, who had taken away her true love.
I hope others find this as interesting as I did. There are 14 pages of pictures and writings about the making of this drama. I'll bring it with to the next gathering, in case anyone is interested in seeing it.
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Post by gpaul on Feb 15, 2007 8:16:05 GMT -5
Thank you teacher for sharing that with us. It really helped to understand why he died. Is there anywhere in Chicago where they sell Asta magazine, or do you have to order a subscription? I do have one copy and I really enjoyed the magazine.
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Post by zorro on Feb 15, 2007 18:34:08 GMT -5
Teacher, that second paragraph is almost poetic. Beautifully written. Thanks for sharing.
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