in tribute to the old ch.28 days

[jiminyK]

I posted on another thread about the little notes that would sometimes appear along with the subtitles on some of the earlier shows (when they were on ch.28) and the discussions that ensued about 'little things' that stood out on the dramas - usually cultural things - that are 'foreign' to many of us viewers...things like the use of ajumma and oppa.

So following a wise suggestion, I wanted to post my burning question here...

In the beginning of Pure In Heart (PIH) many of the characters, would comment on the way Gukhwa talked...about her accent or dialect, whatever u want to call it.
Since I don't speak the language, I couldn't understand what they meant.
And it's not any easier with the subtitles since, as is usually the case with translation, you can't always find the true-to-meaning/exact words to express things
Can someone give an example of what Gukhwa could say, or how she would have said something that would have been a dead give-away that she was a 'farm girl'
Like one scene I remember - and I know this will be a stretch since we've come so far from earlier episodes - was when she first started working as Yunhu's secretary. He corrected her when she was replying to his instructions and told her she couldn't talk in her dialect in his office.

I guess, being a girl who's roots are from the South, I relate to this even more. But just in general, not understanding the Korean language anyway, you don't really know the little clues in Gukhwa's speech that give her away. And it's really fascinating to me.
And I guess seeing these little idiosyncrasies of one culture and their dissimilarity (and similarities!) to 'American' culture, and having somewhere to discuss them is the most rewarding!

[Soju]

When the show started, I could really hear her Yanbian accent, but now I can't; maybe I'm used to it, or maybe they've de-emphasized it.

I read that after the Korean War, the languages of South and North Korea started to diverge. I would suppose that residents of Yanbian followed the Northern style, since they were closer, and China supported the North so much.

There was a joke in 'One Million Roses' (I think it was) where two characters were eating Ramyun, and one says, "You know what they call ramyun in North Korea? Curly Noodles!" Most of us were like, "Huhhh?" until someone explained that, as new things entered the culture, South Korea used loan words a lot, but the North would make up new descriptive words. For example, the South Korean word for 'Helicopter' is 'Hellikopto', but the Northern term is something like 'Aircraft that takes off vertically'. Because of these Fan Boards, we got the joke, and learned something about the evolution of language as well.

[TheBo]

"aircraft that takes off vertically" ROFL. I wonder how they would say, "surfboard"...LOL.

So, the mystery of jiminyk's screen name is solved. LOL.

Bo

[Lucy]

One example of her dialect that I can detect is the changing of vowels and the slurring of words so that the endings collapse. Like she'll answer the phone, instead of "Yoboseyo?", as "Yubushu?" It's cute. Or like, instead of, "Annyounghashimnikka?" (which isn't enunciated perfectly by most speakers anyway, and probably shouldn't be), she'll say, "Annyoungshimka?" That's why when Yunho was penalizing her financially for using dialect, she was speaking slowly and deliberately, trying to get all the syllables in.

[justaviewer]

THANKS SO MUCH for the clarification. I get it now.

[jiminyK]

thanks for the clues!
Lucy, when you mentioned the slurring and the slowed speech, and the chopping/shortening of words, I really got it.
Funny, but I would have never understood just by things like that, because, to me it seems when the actresses (in this drama and in others) want to pout, or be cute, or beg in a cute-sy sort of way, they tend to slur or talk like there's cottonballs in their cheeks. I thought it was just a way of talking for effect.
But I do recall examples of these when Gukhwa talks!


So, Bo...what do you mean the mystery of jiminyk's screen name is solved?

[Lucy]

Jiminy, glad I could help. I think I overstated it in the case of "Annyoungshimka," but you got what I meant. I know what you mean about the pouting. It's often the bratty younger sisters and spoiled daughters. They push out their lips and talk through them like that, like a stereotypical spoiled brat. Sometimes it's horribly annoying, and other times it's not so bad. Kiwoong's little sister on Bizarre Bunch wasn't so bad, IMO, especially since she didn't do it as often as some. In this drama, I think Yun-whatever does it on almost every line. And the way these girls cry! No one ever does the more convincing silent sobbing. They just open their mouths, close their eyes, and wail away. Soooo annoying.

[Lucy]

jiminyk said:

So, Bo...what do you mean the mystery of jiminyk's screen name is solved?

I wonder, too. Maybe she got the impression that you always let your conscience be your guide?

[jiminyK]

good one Lucy I'll keep smiling at that one while we all wait for Bo's reply!