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Post by kathleen34 on Mar 16, 2006 13:38:26 GMT -5
I really liked this drama, including the ending. I cried more at this one than I did at "My Rosy Life". It also reminded me of the Romeo and Juliet theme, their love was not meant to be, and death was the logical ending. The cinemetagraphy of the last episode and the way it was being told by Dajung was quite lovely. I thought the scene at the end where they died in each others arms was moving. I hope the next drama is more upbeat, because emotionally I am drained from both this one and My Rosy Life. Well said gpaul. This by far -- from beginning to end -- was the darkest K-drama I've seen. But I really liked it. A lot. As already stated, the cinematography and music was superb. There's no way either of them would have been able to exist in a normal way once they 'agreed' to end it. I particularly liked the narrative ... The Boy, The Girl... Using a narrative tied up some dangling ends. I know many of you didn't like it, but to me, the ending was very apprpriate. I cannot imagine how long it took to film the final scehe. The makeup, the silence, the snow on the eyelashes .. it's the only ending I could envision. I too kept wondering about the 'shooting' scene. I was afraid THAT would be the ending ... and that would have been the worse case scenario. Hope there are some spunky grandparents in Golden Apple... I'm ready to laugh now... or at least smile.
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Post by mikey on Mar 16, 2006 14:45:18 GMT -5
Well, I guess I’ve already made it clear that I wasn’t among the crowd that went crazy over “Knocked Out by Love.” Doubly disappointing for me, since it was done by the same writer/producer team that did the excellent drama series “I'm Sorry, I Love You” (as well as “Let's Go to School, Sang-doo!”). I guess, like “Sang-doo,” they just had to come up with another ambiguous “did they, or did they not die?” ending, which is frankly getting a bit tiresome for me. And really, what’s the deal with Bokgu dumping her onto the snow like that, to die? You mean, this (supposedly) champion kick-boxer can’t even muster the strength to carry her as far as a warm room? Heck, even Jong-nam managed to carry Suk-hyun all the way to a hotel room on her back - even after he peed on her! And, in this day and age when every man, woman, and child in Korea carries a cell phone with them, I guess neither of them had one handy at the moment they really needed one to call for help . . . Or (looking for a darker possibility . . .) did Bokgu *deliberately* lay her down in the snow so that they could die together? If that’s the case, then isn’t he nothing more than a murderer? I loved Da-jung, but otherwise, I’m afraid that I had lots of issues with this show. But, hey, I’ll admit that I sure liked the music!
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Post by cyuser on Mar 16, 2006 14:48:10 GMT -5
Well said gpaul. This by far -- from beginning to end -- was the darkest K-drama I've seen. May I recommend then I'm sorry, I love you ... And What happened in Bali? <-- has the chocking end
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Post by cyuser on Mar 16, 2006 17:59:21 GMT -5
did Bokgu *deliberately* lay her down in the snow so that they could die together? If that’s the case, then isn’t he nothing more than a murderer? *cough* (hinting the title) a love to kill *cough*
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Post by Ducky on Mar 16, 2006 18:08:28 GMT -5
On Soompi the translation was "A love that I want to kill"...
Plus in the opening credits he did point a gun at her head...
American TV would have gone with the violent ending, Korean TV went with a more symbolic ending...
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Post by BAE on Mar 16, 2006 20:37:22 GMT -5
did Bokgu *deliberately* lay her down in the snow so that they could die together? If that’s the case, then isn’t he nothing more than a murderer? *cough* (hinting the title) a love to kill *cough* LOL, could you be any more subtle, cy? I didn't think of that mikey. It's really strange. Maybe that's what he was thinking when he laid her onto the snow. Or maybe he wsa too panicky to think of doing anything else but warming her up. He wanted to go crazy, i think he just might never have come back.
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Post by mikey on Mar 16, 2006 21:20:41 GMT -5
Actually, I was in a bit of a smart-a$$ mood when I wrote all that, so I was really just half-joking . . . However, now that you mention it, I guess it's a real possibility. But, if this show actually ends with the murder-suicide of the two lead characters, then this is about as bleak a drama as I can possibly imagine.
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Post by CaptainVideo on Mar 17, 2006 1:15:13 GMT -5
Just a couple of thoughts before this thread goes to off air. Although I was pretty lukewarm about this series (I had high hopes for it after the first episode) I was fairly satisfied with the ending. I think they both died because she dropped the samurai sword; they were doomed from that point forward. Secondly, I do agree with the notion of, "he should have had a phone", but I think he was physically spent, practically dead before he even reached her, so reaching the car was out of the question. Remember the piggy back ride he gave to Dajung and she commented how cold he felt on his back and chest? Remember how warm Eunsuk commented on the same area of his body being so warm? He explained that his world was always cold and Dajung, Minku and Eunsuk provided the warmth. One by one, they all left him and he got cold and died inside. I'm glad they finally revealed the fact that Minku went to jail for Bokgu; that really explains almost everything except why he couldn't fight the gangsters.... and now we'll never know. Oh well, on to the next drama!
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Post by hamjieun on Mar 17, 2006 8:46:08 GMT -5
the only reason i watch this drama because i love jung ji hoon i don"t like this writer work hi always ending his drama same way NOW i come back to watch mi favorite drama full house the best Korean drama after yi soon shi
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Post by zorro on Mar 17, 2006 10:35:45 GMT -5
I watched the rerun the next day. I do remember her dropping the necklace in the snow which she had taken off. I took that as a sign she wanted to give up, maybe because she couldn't be with Bokgu. She had said she wanted to go somewhere where no one could find her.
I didn't think of him using his cell phone either, but it could be that he knew in his heart she wanted to go, and that if he saved her she would only try again? If so, then maybe he decided to honor her wish and stay with her until the end, and since Minku and she would both be gone, he had nothing left to live for.
Someone mentioned earlier about the gun scene and a tear from his eye as he lowered it as a metaphor for his not being able to carry out his mission. I think that's a good catch and works for me whether or not it was supposed to be left in the story or not.
I must have missed the first episode or two. Did someone say DaJung got burned rescuing Bokgu from a fire? I felt bad for her as she tried her best, but still lost out.
Oh yeah… I can't get the music out of my head either! That woman singing the haunting song, or that menacing cello music. LOL
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Post by finejade on Mar 17, 2006 10:52:35 GMT -5
I'm not exactly thrilled that they both died. But, I'm not disappointed either. The ending was fairly predictable; they had such a tumultuous relationship that it seems only fitting that they would both end up dying (in K-drama world -- I really don't mean in the real world 'cause that would just be too sad). Although, if I could have written the ending, I would have wanted them to live happily ever after.
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Post by ovaridedis24 on Mar 17, 2006 11:52:46 GMT -5
Did they ever explain about why or who Bok-gu was fighting in those flashbacks, the one where Da-jung comes to his rescue and gets the burn on her neck? They keep showing it, but there's never any explanation for it (unless I missed it)...I mean come on, there was fire and everything!!!
In terms of the ending, I didn't mind it so much, I was hoping for their happiness, but this isn't so bad...I don't know why they just didn't go for it, both Jun-sung and Da-jung gave them each an opportunity to be with each other, even Min-ku wanted them to be together.
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Post by Lucy on Mar 20, 2006 12:23:26 GMT -5
I thought the ending was fine for a K-drama. They love to have people die. But as usual, there was no real reason. I don't even understand why they didn't get together. Their love was not as tragic and star-crossed as they made it out to be. Big deal, they had some rough times and there were other people involved. But there was really nothing stopping them except their belief that the world was against them, and I don't think it ever was the case. Minku died and Dajung left, but Bokgu never really was going to make it with Dajung. So what's the prob?
Still, if that's the way they were going, I guess dying in the snow was okay. My feeling as to what happened was that Eunsuk was dead by the time he got there. I was watching her expression and it did not change from a peaceful quasi-smile. He knew it but tried to warm her up anyway, or at least decided to embrace her and wait for the inevitable.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the dumber it is. I hate when endings get tacked on like this, whether happy or sad. K-dramas put you through so much and keep telling you how and what to think about characters, but usually they don't give a convincing reason why what happens in the plot is inevitable. Think about it--it could just as easily have gone the other way, with a happy ending, and we wouldn't have any more reason why it would turn out that way than we did with the sad ending.
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Post by Hawaiian Sun on Mar 20, 2006 21:57:26 GMT -5
I agree with Lucy 100%. It really could just as easily ended happily...I don't understand why they "supposedly" couldn't be together. Was it because Bokgu feels guilty about being with his brother's woman or does he still hold her partially responsible for what happened? I don't get it...does anyone have any insight as to why Bokgu seems to be the resistant one about being happy together with Eunsuk?
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Post by Lucyun on Mar 22, 2006 11:11:24 GMT -5
FYI, as a followup to my message above, I did re-watch the ending last night and in the very last scene, Eunsuk's eyes did move under her closed eyelids! I don't know if it was an accident or not, but move they did. I guess I'm leaning now to the opinion that they were both on the point of death as the sun rose (why did she last so much longer than he did?) and they had that psychic conversation. Bokgu's part of the conversation ended right before his hand flopped down into the snow. ("Thank you for letting me love you.") And then there was a shot of Eunsuk with the slightly moving eyes and maybe a little tear at the corners, then the last part of the narration.
Isn't it funny that the show ended with "Thank you for watching/ We wish you happiness" in the titles? Like, "We hope you don't end up miserable and dead in the snow with your star-crossed lover?"
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