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Post by BAE on Jan 5, 2006 23:56:21 GMT -5
If only these two kids would get rid of their pride or whatever and reconcile before either of them make serious mistakes.
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Post by Lucy on Jan 6, 2006 10:53:48 GMT -5
That's what I keep thinking, BAE. They seem to one-up each other in the field of shutting each other out. I don't understand Sena, though. She loved him so much, and she had a bad time, but if he's saying he wants to give it another try, how can she not be tempted? I don't see how she can talk of divorce so easily.
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Post by BAE on Jan 6, 2006 13:19:24 GMT -5
I completely agree lucy. she's giving up before he is. a few arguments here and there, sure, but it's not like their relationship was a total failure.
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Post by Lucy on Jan 6, 2006 14:28:54 GMT -5
They don't seem to put any faith in talking over their problems. All they do is complain about how the other person makes them feel, but they don't talk about how they can solve their problems. Seungu's saying he wants to give it another try is a start. But if that attempt is going to consist of just looking at each other across a big chasm and being too scared or angry to show each other they care (and I think that's what Seungu should have been doing all along, though it's not too late to start)--then it's not even worth trying.
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Post by BAE on Jan 6, 2006 16:14:38 GMT -5
xoxo. well said!
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Post by JB on Jan 6, 2006 20:09:20 GMT -5
I think Sena hasn't seen any evidence from Seungu that he is ever going to change. He never takes any steps to try and fix his problems when he makes these statements that he wants to stay together. Sena got into this marriage because she loved Seungu but has felt hurt and betrayed during the whole marriage. She doesn't see any reason to believe that if she continued on it would be any different. Sena probably could have lived with the marriage with Yunsu pretending to be Seungu's sister. However, while Seungu speaks of her like a sister his actions have spoken otherwise. He said he would have only one love in his life. The love of his life had left the country (but is now back). He even has a poem on the back of her picture. He found it more important to have dinner alone with Yunsu then with his wife on the one day he didn't work really late. He was even caught alone with this other person after he had promised that he wouldn't see her anymore. By what basis should Sena feel that things will change for the better. Even though we know Seungu isn't doing anything shameful with Yunsu, how is his wife to know that. If Seungu had just told his wife that he loved her, which he seems to and doesnt seem to have a problem telling others how much he cares for her, he probably would have much slack in his life and wouldn't be in the situation he is in. What happened to his statement that he made to Yunsu at the bar that he was going to tell Sena that his third wish was that they would stay together and he would tell her that he loves her. I mean that is a better start than just saying you want to give it another shot. Why would Sena not think he was just saying that out of pride. It's not like she can read his mind. In fact while Seungu did not seem to realize his wife's feelings even though they are written on her face so expresively that we probably don't need subtitles to know what Sena is thinking, Seungu's expressions seem to be limited to furrowing his brow a little bit. Frankly if I was in the position Seungu was in I would make it known that Yunsu could only talk to me with Sena present to make sure their are no misunderstandings.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Jan 6, 2006 21:28:55 GMT -5
That demand would be difficult for Sena to make, because she also lied to Seungu, and he is misunderstanding her meetings with Jinhui, too. They are both so prickly now, the goodwill is missing so neither one is cutting the other any slack. If he would only tell her he loves her, not that he owns her, they could both agree to stay away from their former loves for a while until their relationship got stable. That Yunsu, she's a trap for Seungu. Not that it's all her fault.
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Post by FlowerLady on Jan 6, 2006 23:04:10 GMT -5
I also wish that Seungu would have told Sena that he loved her a long time ago! Now I'm thinking that Sena & Seungu are both making silly, prideful mistakes galore!! Aigu! Also, the self-serving Jinhui needs to stay away right now and quit interfering! And the selfish, self-focused Yunsu is REALLY out of line asking Seungu if she can go with him to the States!! Is she kidding me??? They're not even divorced yet!! If Yunsu really loved Mrs. Han as she kept purporting to, she should care enough to respect the Han family's integrity. PERIOD. Even though Seungu is frequently clueless and misdirected (and has blindly chosen to stay emotionally entangled with Yunsu on several occasions), he clearly loves his own darling wife! YUNSU SHOULD NOT KEEP FACTORING HERSELF INTO THE EQUATION!!!! Both Jinhui & Yunsu need to butt out and let this couple have a chance to try to heal their fledgling marriage. Aacckk!
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Post by JB on Jan 7, 2006 11:59:57 GMT -5
If Seungu figures out what the problem is he should just do it without having to be asked by Sena to do it. I think he still hasn't figured out what the problem is and therefore can't act on it. Sena had told Jinhui never to call her but she was never forceful enough. Yunsu knows that if she wants Seungu she has to make a move now irrespective of what is happening between Seungu and Sena. Yunsu is just afraid of being alone with nobodies life to ruin. Jinhui I think thought he knew everything about life and love compared to the other people and is just now figuring out that all his advice has made matters worse. Of course if the characters acted the way we wanted them to there wouldn't be enough drama to make a show. We viewers also have the advantage of knowing things the characters don't know about each other like what happens in all these embarrassing meetings that they are all being caught in.
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Post by FlowerLady on Jan 7, 2006 22:26:46 GMT -5
Of course if the characters acted the way we wanted them to there wouldn't be enough drama to make a show. I know, JB, you're right, but we just like watching our beloved K-dramas unfold and making our comments from the Peanut Gallery! --That's what our board is all about!
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Post by galacticchick on Jan 9, 2006 10:18:59 GMT -5
I think Sena hasn't seen any evidence from Seungu that he is ever going to change. He never takes any steps to try and fix his problems when he makes these statements that he wants to stay together. Sena got into this marriage because she loved Seungu but has felt hurt and betrayed during the whole marriage. She doesn't see any reason to believe that if she continued on it would be any different. Absolutely, totally most definitely agree w/you on this JB. I mean she loved him so much, just think about how much she's changed. She was fun loving, perky, confident, happy. And now she's always sad, worried and just not herself. It's like he broke her. So why should she want to stay with him when his words are one thing and his actions another. Besides, it seems to me that he just doesn't want to get a divorce because he doesn't want to be a divorcee, at least that's how he makes it seem even though I know that's probably not the reason.
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Post by Lucy on Jan 9, 2006 11:53:58 GMT -5
JR, your words are reminding me of the teachings of "Bob" Dobbs and the Church of the Subgenius. Do you know what I'm talking about?
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Post by JB on Jan 9, 2006 12:29:52 GMT -5
JR, your words are reminding me of the teachings of "Bob" Dobbs and the Church of the Subgenius. Do you know what I'm talking about? If I sound metaphysical it is the result of typing to fast and not checking my grammar.
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Post by Lucy on Jan 9, 2006 15:17:26 GMT -5
That's funny. No, it was because of the keyword "slack." The Church of the Subgenius is a kind of joke church, though part of the joke is that they never admit it's a put-on. They have a bizarre philosophy as expounded by their mythical founder, JR "Bob" Dobbs. It involves maximizing the "slack" in your life.
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