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Post by Knov1 on Nov 6, 2005 10:22:31 GMT -5
As I've said, this one is not about the love between the two main characters and how they overcome all the obstacles such as I've listed above with their love. Rather, it's about how a husband and wife adjust to each other, how they deal with the shock they experience when they get married for the first time. In fact, the guy doesn't even love the girl, but marries her nevertheless. (which is a blesphemy in Korean dramas) I already knew that but that's not a new concept. It's been done before. Many dramas have focused on how married couples have to adjust to each other. Also, characters in K-Dramas have gotten married in the past even though they're not in love. There's no misunderstandings in this drama. Yes, there is. I'm not referring to stuff that's kept from them but misunderstandings between them. When you have a married a couple that barely knows anything about one another, you're going to have misunderstandings. Yes, so it started out with high ratings, but fell because of good competitors like Secret Lovers (which I also enjoyed very much) and Seodongyo, although these shows didn't get high ratings themselves. I only said that they didn't cut this down to 18 episodes because of low ratings. 14.2 isn't high ratings. That's not even close. Ratings 20 and above would be good. Getting ratings such 10, 11, or even 12 is considered low. If a drama is set to be a certain number of episodes, the only way that's going to change is due to ratings. If ratings are great they might expand the series a few episodes. This has happened in the past with dramas such as Who's My Love & Dae Jang Geum. If ratings are really low then the network airing it will often reduce the number of episodes. Recent dramas such as Stained Glass, 3 leaf Clover & The Prince's First Love have been reduced in episodes due to low ratings. Last thing, I'm not trying to change your opinion of the show. As I stated before, all that matters in the end is whether you enjoyed the drama or not. However, I disagree that this a new concept of drama. I think this falls in line with the typical K-Drama. It wasn't a bad idea for a drama but it could've been done better.
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Post by donilpark on Nov 6, 2005 12:47:48 GMT -5
If you think so, you really didn't see what's important. Did you not notice when Jinhee's stepmother came to Yunsu to tell her not to marry Jinhee? In a typical Korean drama, that would have been a major conflict point for the relationship between Yunsu and Jinhee. But not in this drama. The stepmother came, and Yunsu told Jinhee about that, and Jinhee said 'I'll take care of it'. And that was the end of it. Jinhee's family was not even mentioned after that. Also notice how there's no conflict regarding the relationship between Sena and her mother in law. Do you not see how this drama is void of such traditional devices to create conflict? The conflict in this drama is purely about the phychological state of each character, not some external factors that create problems for them. That really is a new approach. In other Korean dramas, they don't give you enough reason as to why the characters fall in love. They just do, and the wirters focus on external variables that are in the way of realizing the love of the two main characters, and how the two overcome them by love. But in Wedding, all those things are completely absent. The adjustment that has to be made is not dealing with picky mother in law or sister in law, or financial problems or anything of that sort. It's purely the feelings that has to be worked out. You really really didn't see the internal relationships if you didn't see this. You just saw the superficial features like how the girl comes from an affluent family and the guy is a self-realized person, the way there's the third party girl who seems to get in the way of the two main characters, etc and think that this is not so different from other Korean dramas. But no, that's not true.
Well, in a sense misunderstanding is what causes any conflict in human relationships, and conflict is the essence of any drama, isn't it? If you knew exactly how the other person felt and knew exactly what was going on, then the earth will be the most peaceful place-heaven itself. But it can never be because of those 'misunderstandings'. However, the nature of misunderstandings are considerably different in this drama. That's what I meant when I said there's no misunderstandings in this drama. There's nothing that the characters in the show don't find out until after two episodes that we, as viewers, get to know. (spoilers: maybe except the fact that Sena had a relationship with Jinhee. That in itself is a huge thing in Korean drama-the main girl having slept with a man before. But what's more is that the problem with that is not Sena's physical chastity, but Seungwoo's feelings about it. He doesn't resent the fact that Sena was not a virgin, because he already knew that from Sena's confession that she once went out with a guy. When Seungwoo found out that guy was his own friend Jinhee, his feelings were thrown into the storm.)
I should've said 'relatively high'.... but that is not the point. All I said is that they didn't end it because of low ratings. They make plans, but it may not always come to that. They originally thought this could go to 20 episodes, but it turned out that the writer said all she wanted in 18 episodes. If they ended it prematurely, there should have been an announcement that this was cut to 18 episodes (although they won't tell you the reason... which everyone knows anyway). But they didn't make any announcements like that. And lowe ratings are not the only reason. Look at Fashion 70's, which was originally scheduled for 30 episodes but was cut to 28 because there was a confusion in the contract the producer made with the broascaster and the actors. They specified different lengths to SBS and to the actors. So they had but to end at 18 episodes, even though they would've liked to go to 30 episodes. In any case, I share your sentiment. As I've already stated twice, I do realize that this drama may not appeal to everyone. And I've no intention of persuading someone who doesn't like this show to like it. However, I completely disagree that this is like typical Korean dramas. In fact, the reason why I personally loved it so much as to set the desktop wallpaper with one of the posters from the official website was because it was so different and so new.
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Post by Knov1 on Nov 7, 2005 16:37:12 GMT -5
You really didn't see the internal relationships if you didn't see this. You just saw the superficial features like how the girl comes from an affluent family and the guy is a self-realized person, the way there's the third party girl who seems to get in the way of the two main characters, etc and think that this is not so different from other Korean dramas. But no, that's not true. It's not that I don't understand what you're saying but I don't see it as a new concept of drama. IMO, Wedding isn't significantly different enough to be considered a new type of drama. You can't ignore the other layers of the drama just because you think one aspect is different. You still have a lot of typical K-Drama material in Wedding. Just look at the characters. Sena is your typical female character. She's the cute, a bit naive, indecisive, yet willing to persevere type of girl. Seung Woo reminds me a lot of Lee Dong Gun in "18 Year Old Bride" and Nam Goong Min in "My Precious Child". You still have the usual love triangle. Of course, you have the "It's a small world" theme in which all the characters are somehow connected. In the end, I think this drama is fairly similar to KBS Full House, KBS 18 Year Old Bride, KBS 18 vs 29 & MBC Wonderful Life.
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Post by donilpark on Nov 7, 2005 17:09:09 GMT -5
I see. I can see you comparing this to Full House. Perhaps I was wrong in saying that this is 'completely' new. Since there's nothing new under the sun. But some things have to be there. If it's not a 'small world' then there won't be any drama to begin with. If the characters don't even get to meet each other, how can there be any interesting story between them? And you're not exactly right on that point either. Has it ever happened in Wedding that the characters meet each other at a totally unexpected place? No. For example, it may seem annoying that whenever Sena visits Seungwoo's mother, Yunsu is already there. But that's a part of Yunsu's character. Seungwoo's mother is like her own mother, and she is greatly attached to her. So it is natural that Yunsu should frequently visit her house, which is a pseudo-symbolic way of showing the fact that she still has feelings for Seungwoo. I was watching Lovers in Prague last night, and I was laughing crazy when the President of Korea and that evil businessman guy encountered each other at a small restaurant by coincidence. Now that's funny and contrived. That's what we call 'small world'. Not something that happens in Wedding. Again, you're seeing superficial features. You say we shouldn't ignore them, but just because having human beings as the main characters is overused, you can't start making a drama with aliens finding love on earth (maybe you can, but then the whole alien thing will be the main focus of the show or maybe it'll be a comedy show). It's about how to use old configurations, characters and settings and say new things in a different way. That's what really counts, what really shows the writer's talent. Full House, although it did mainly focus on the relationship between the two main characters, still had a girl who tried to seperate them and all those basic rudimentary Korean drama elements. Also, while it showed how the two gradually fell in love, it didn't give serious considerations about marriage. In Full House, (contract) marriage was just a device that was used to tie the two chartacters under one roof. The marriage itself didn't hold much meaning. Once they fell in love, marriage was just a given, something that follows naturally. On the other hand, Wedding, true to its title, seriously considers marriage from the perspective of the husband and wife and their feelings themselves, rather than just looking at it simply as the final destination of love. I don't know. If you thought so, I guess that's the way it is. Perhaps I might suggest you to read a few reviews. dramamob.com/Review/View.asp?PKId=299and dramamob.com/Review/View.asp?PKId=357dramamob.com/review/view.asp?PKId=360&FKDrama=7Not that what they say is the absolute truth or anything, but they did explain and analyze it a little better than I could.
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Post by Ken on Nov 7, 2005 21:26:58 GMT -5
I love Myung Sae Bin (she's one of my favorite actresses) and Gong Hyun Joo is hot but I'm taking a pass on this one... www.koreanwiz.org/at/drama-wedding.htmlI'm with you on that! I noticed from Koreanwiz that the screenwriter for Wedding is the same one who brought us Love Letter and Winter Ballad, so that's fair warning, I think. I can't imagine that writer is capable of writing anything resembling realistic conflict, unless he's had his memories replaced or had an epiphany during his medical training at the seminary. What's going to be after Wedding?
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Post by donilpark on Nov 7, 2005 21:58:06 GMT -5
First, it's she. Second, if you're thinking about Winter Sonata or Autumn Tale, then you don't have to worry, because the writer explicitly said at the beginning that she would move away from what she did in those dramas and after watching Wedding, I can tell you that she lived up to her words. I don't know... I guess I can't make this any convincing... to each his own. But it would really be a waste to let go of a good work like this...
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Post by shizniz00 on Nov 7, 2005 22:51:28 GMT -5
awesome...cant wait to see this. ive been watching it but only up to eps9 with subs.
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Post by Lucy on Nov 8, 2005 11:28:15 GMT -5
Does it start tonight? No, wait, it's got to be tomorrow, Wed 11/9/05, correct?
thanks, Lucy
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Post by Raven on Nov 8, 2005 15:48:58 GMT -5
Well now for sure I have to take a look at it, if it ignites such passionate debates between board members now I have to see who's opinion was more accurate. It was exciting just reading thanks ;D
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Post by hiphip on Nov 21, 2005 17:20:23 GMT -5
im just a strainger passin thru those comments bout de dramas of u guys..!! ;D i was kinda waitin everyday 2 de beginning of nxt weeks 2 get to see dis Wedding thingie dis is the 1st time i v ever watched a Korean drama, its really cool, as the male main character s really manly and he got the easy-fragile kinda looks, really really attractive, and the female main character, shes cute,girlie in soft and peaceful kinda way... =D my frnds once said Korean dramas are normally cheesy and going no where except all those cancers and love triangle.. well. guess it gotta changes one day hah? i see this Wedding thingie as a sweet TV show 4 me to watch, see how those people who is in love deal with each other.. and how they take responsibilities for their feelings... =D thx u guys for reading this by the way, i guess i will stop by next week... xxx good day!!
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Post by happypom on Nov 21, 2005 21:56:06 GMT -5
Hello, I am thinking of buying this drama is it worth it? I really liked sweet 18, it is comparable? Your help will be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Lucy on Nov 22, 2005 16:38:29 GMT -5
Hi, happypom. We don't know, really--it just started showing in Chicago a couple of weeks ago. I like it fine, but I'm waiting for it to get interesting. "Sweet 18" was not shown here.
I like your username; do you have a Pom, the cutest dogs in the world?
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Post by FlowerLady on Nov 26, 2005 23:43:43 GMT -5
Hello, I am thinking of buying this drama is it worth it? I really liked sweet 18, it is comparable? Your help will be greatly appreciated. happypom.......Do you know of any place where this subtitled drama ("Wedding") is being sold? I checked Yesasia.com and did not find a DVD set with this name with English subtitles. (If you know of another vendor or website, I would appreciate the info. Thanks!)
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Post by mikey on Dec 2, 2005 12:30:16 GMT -5
Mixed feelings from me so far on “Wedded Bliss.” The first two episodes really dragged for me, so much so that I had trouble paying attention. It’s gotten better now, but unless something dramatic happens, I can’t honestly say that this is going to end up as one of my all-time favorites. Not a slap at “Wedded Bliss,” for I guess people just have different tastes (after raving again and again about how good “Emperor of the Sea” was, I was amazed at the number of negative comments I got about the series)! Hello, I am thinking of buying this drama is it worth it? I really liked sweet 18, it is comparable? Your help will be greatly appreciated. “Sweet 18” is a good one: somewhat lightweight, perhaps, but great fun. Lots of people seem to place it in their all-time Top 10 lists. I don’t really, but I still give it a solid B+ grade. However, I’m not sure that “Wedded Bliss” really compares to “Sweet 18.” “Sweet 18” had a sharper comedic edge. “Wedded Bliss,” so far, seems more serious. If you’re a big fan of “Sweet 18,” try not to miss the current MBC TV drama “Secret Lovers,” since it also features the same way-cute lead actress (Han Ji Hye). It’s probably my favorite current K-drama right now, but since it’s a MBC drama, most of the Chicago fans will probably never get to see it. Also, I don't think "Wedded Bliss" is available for purchase, yet. And YesAsia.com probably WON'T be carrying it, since it and KBS have gone their own ways. You'll need to keep checking the "KBS America e-Store" for news on this: estore.kbs-america.com/results.aspx?CatID=2
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Post by galacticchick on Jan 13, 2006 17:08:04 GMT -5
It seems that we did like it after all. It wasn't anything "Oh my God, how groundbreaking!" but it didn't leave me with a taste that's been all to common to me "What?! I waste x-number hours watching this stupid show!".
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