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Post by luvarchfiend on Apr 24, 2005 17:57:59 GMT -5
well i don't know about the rest of you, but i like yi young nam so much. of course, if you saw the first 4 episodes and remember who is he from them (and someone will know who i am referring to ;D), you will already have a good understanding of the kind of man he is. he is loyal, brave, passionate, kind, caring, wanting to do the right thing, even against the rules or norms.
i am so unhappy for him in his present situation. it will be interesting to see how things develop. obviously he is better suited to serve with YSS, having the kind of heart and character that he possesses.
sighs. there were so many good men, loyal warriors, brave and strong. i am living in the wrong time period. ;D
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Post by Jph on Apr 25, 2005 17:15:34 GMT -5
I'm just wondering if his character is fiction or non-fiction.
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Post by luvswarriors on Apr 25, 2005 17:29:35 GMT -5
yi young nam is a real character. he is mentioned in the admiral's personal war diary.
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Post by florel on Apr 25, 2005 17:39:22 GMT -5
JPh : Young-Nam's relation with Won Kyun and with YSS in the drama is based on historical facts. Luv, Nice new youngnam avatar. ;D Young-Nam looks young with normal and moderate eyebrows. ;D I confess I'm a fan of Nalbal and Young-Nam. Oh, my buddha, lots of charming boys in this show ! I also like Lieutenant Jung (subordinate of Captain Jung). He is cute and sexy. ;D Poor boy ! He is always kicked by his captain. I saw Episode 68 today in which he is kicked again. But it seems that he doesn't hate his kickboxer captain.
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Post by Choko on Apr 26, 2005 9:57:52 GMT -5
Hey, Let me join you. I have loved Yi Young-nam since ep. 4. ;D
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Post by paduk.scholar on Apr 26, 2005 12:54:04 GMT -5
I also like Lieutenant Jung (subordinate of Captain Jung). He is cute and sexy. ;D Poor boy ! He is always kicked by his captain. I saw Episode 68 today in which he is kicked again. But it seems that he doesn't hate his kickboxer captain. You're right, Lt. Chung's such a cutie. I'm so relieved to hear that he lives to ep. 68! For a while there, it seemed every new character that I became very fond of would somehow die or be killed off (I guess it's easy to kill off fictional characters). At the end of ep. 50 (which aired here yesterday), Won Kyun comes to the Left Cholla Navy base and grabs Lt. Chung threateningly. Hope he does a Captain Chung on him and gives Won Kyun a hard boot kick. ;D
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Post by florel on Apr 26, 2005 16:23:05 GMT -5
You're right, Lt. Chung's such a cutie. I'm so relieved to hear that he lives to ep. 68! For a while there, it seemed every new character that I became very fond of would somehow die or be killed off (I guess it's easy to kill off fictional characters). At the end of ep. 50 (which aired here yesterday), Won Kyun comes to the Left Cholla Navy base and grabs Lt. Chung threateningly. I guess you are referring to Yi Young-Nam. He is a historical personnage. In Episode 50, Won Kyun arrives at the Right Kyungsang Naval Station. And he beats Lt. Yi Young-Nam without reason. Lt. Chung (also sp. as Jung) is a subordinate of Captain Chung Woon and he is a fictional minor character. Captain Chung and Won Kyun are similar kicker type in the drama. I notice that Captain Chung often kicked his soldiers before the Japanese invasion, but he starts to kick his officer (Lt. Chung) after the invasion. It seems I made you confused. I hope that fictional characters would not be killed off except Chun-Su. Hope he does a Captain Chung on him and gives Won Kyun a hard boot kick. ;D I also hope it. ;D
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Post by captainamazing on Apr 26, 2005 20:23:52 GMT -5
Which of the military officers are real and which are fictional? I don't know anything about Korean history aside from the show and this forum, but right now I'm assuming that Yi Soon-Shin's five direct subordinates are historical (all the blue uniforms except the director). What about some of the others, such as "Park Hong," the Left Kyung-Sang naval commander (mentioned once and seen for less than a second in Episode 53), and Yi Okki(?), the Right Cholla naval commander?
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Post by jk on Apr 27, 2005 5:17:17 GMT -5
Park Hong self destructed, dismissed all his fleet and fled off. (and it proved to be a BAD decision) It was Left Kyung-sang province where Japanese troop made their landing, so he assumed it was too late to gather his fleet and fight back.
Yi Uk-ki was another great admiral next to Yi Soon-shin, But he's not as famous as Yi Soon-shin because it was Yi Soon-shin who led the all battles while Yi Uk-ki was more like supportive figure. (bad for him that Yi Soon-shin was too genius) Yi Uk-ki passed the military service entrance exam for 1st degree rank at age of only 17(or 18), and was only about 30 year old or so at the time war began. He died during the battle before war ended. Oh, Yi Uk-ki too, was serving at Northern frontier when Yi Soon-shin was being penalized for Nok-dun island incident. In real history, it was Yi Uk-ki (not Won Kyun) who defended Yi Soon-shin.
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Post by paduk.scholar on Apr 27, 2005 15:21:47 GMT -5
I guess you are referring to Yi Young-Nam. He is a historical personnage. In Episode 50, Won Kyun arrives at the Right Kyungsang Naval Station. And he beats Lt. Yi Young-Nam without reason. Hi Florel, Oops. Yep, my friend pointed out my mistake (Lt. Yi, not Lt. Chung) last night as we watched ep. 51. I thought Won Kyun had arrived at YSS's navy base first. Ugh, I can't believe Cpt. Chung and Won Kyun are so chummy. Chung was starting to grow on me. The way he demanded to be executed instead of his men, and how he struggled as they dragged him away. He and YSS seemed to be hitting it off earlier. Speaking of chummy, Left Minister Yu and the Courtesan ...sitting in a tree. It was funny how Yoon Du-Su was like "Quite a feisty little dame you got here, Sung Ryung" and Yu looked to be on the verge of blushing. My friend and I have a new ritual - whenever Chun Su appears on screen, we go to the kitchen and put a pizza in the oven. By the way, I just started watching this series since around the 25th episode. Did the beginning episodes start off with the end of Admiril Yi's life, and then they flash back or something? Choko posted Ep 4? I don't get it.
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Post by chigirl68 on Apr 27, 2005 15:30:08 GMT -5
By the way, I just started watching this series since around the 25th episode. Did the beginning episodes start off with the end of Admiril Yi's life, and then they flash back or something? You are correct. The series starts off with amazing battle scenes and we see Admiral Yi get shot on his ship. Then we flash back to see his life.
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Post by florel on Apr 27, 2005 17:31:31 GMT -5
Ugh, I can't believe Cpt. Chung and Won Kyun are so chummy. Chung was starting to grow on me. The way he demanded to be executed instead of his men, and how he struggled as they dragged him away. He and YSS seemed to be hitting it off earlier. The relation between YSS and Captain Chung in the drama differs from the real history. (It will approach to the fact at the end of Episode 60's.) The dramatists want to make their relation complicated. My friend and I have a new ritual - whenever Chun Su appears on screen, we go to the kitchen and put a pizza in the oven. HAHAHA..! By the way, I just started watching this series since around the 25th episode. Did the beginning episodes start off with the end of Admiril Yi's life, and then they flash back or something? I guess you don't need to be worried if you missed the first four spectacular episodes. It's highly probable that the drama will arrive at its starting point in the end.
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Post by moreshige on Apr 28, 2005 8:10:59 GMT -5
All of YSS captains were real historical figures. What the drama doesn't show is that YSS had more than the 6 blue-coated captains we see in the show. Yss had several more captains under him. And as for the navies, there were four. In the show we are mainly shown YSS's left cholla navy and Won Kyun's right kyung sang navy. Right cholla navy was headed by Yi Ok-ki whom we don't see much of in the show. He was a competant leader who helped YSS from the beginning (battle of Ok po). Left kyung sang navy's leader, Pak Hong, was a coward who fled the moment he saw the Japanese make their landing. And consequently, much of kyung sang province was decimated. YSS's captains we know in the show are: Yi Soon-shin (bang dap chum sa).....charge of budget Shin Ho (Nak an Gun su).....charge of food supply Uh Young Dahm (kwan Yang Hyun gam)....charge of maps Chung Eun (Nokdo mahn ho).......charge of cannons Kim Wahn (sa do chum sa) ......monkey man Kwon Jun (Sunchon magistrate)....YSS's right hand man Interesting facts during the first battle of Ok Po' In YSS's own words..... 1.) "Chung Eun, captain from Nokdo," holed and destroyed 2 large enemy pavilion vessels with cannon fire and burned them completely by attacks in cooperation with other ships, cut off 3 Japanese heads, and rescued 2 Korean prisioners of war" 2.) "Sunchon magistrate, Kwon Jun, forgetting about himself, pentetrated the enemy position first, breaking and capturing one large enemy pavilion vessel, and beheading 10 Japanese warriors including the Commander, and bringing back a Korean prisoner of war....." And there were heroics of other YSS's captains but they are not in the show, so I won't mention them.
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Post by Eowyn on Apr 28, 2005 14:04:43 GMT -5
Speaking of chummy, Left Minister Yu and the Courtesan ...sitting in a tree. My friend and I have a new ritual - whenever Chun Su appears on screen, we go to the kitchen and put a pizza in the oven. Those two really should get together! lol, that's hilarious, paduk scholar! Is there ever a night when you have to have, like, more than one pizza? lol ;D
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Post by JPh on Apr 28, 2005 17:47:17 GMT -5
I'm wondering about one of YSS's officer, Kim Wahn. He seems to be the comical relief of the show. Did he really exist? If so, how do the writers of the show decide what type of personal characteristics the historical figures are portrayed as? Are they just making them up, guessing, or do they use some factual historical informations that they use for their character portrayals?
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