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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Aug 25, 2004 18:59:05 GMT -5
d@mn straight now THAT is a real man
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Post by luvarchfiend on Aug 25, 2004 19:02:38 GMT -5
d@mn straight now THAT is a real man i think they are all dead now aren't they?
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Aug 25, 2004 19:04:27 GMT -5
yeah, guess he was just too much man for this world ;D
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Aug 28, 2004 10:35:21 GMT -5
-the admiral regularly sent messengers to his family home in asan inquiring after his mother's health
-hist two older brothers died early, and the admiral took it upon himself to feed and care for their children
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Aug 28, 2004 14:51:53 GMT -5
it seems from reading his war diaries that his favorite thing to do when he had time off was to drink wine with his buddies and shoot arrows
hope he doesn't go the road of the archfiend
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Aug 29, 2004 10:21:29 GMT -5
-the admiral yi soon shin also had a staff officer by the same name but it was spelled using different chinese characters
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Post by kemamusa on Aug 30, 2004 4:45:30 GMT -5
----- SPOLIER ALERT ----- SPOLIER ALERT ------ ----- SPOLIER ALERT ----- SPOLIER ALERT ------ There are a few incredible historical facts about Admiral Yi Sunshin that are beyond belief. - He had 23 victories out of all 23 naval battles he fought. - He never lost a single ship under his command while sinking over 500+ Japanese ships. - He lost less than 300 of his men while killing over 60,000+ Japanese soldiers. - Even with this incredible military record, the admiral was demoted to the rank of private twice in his career. - The most incredible victory came when he was demoted to the rank of private from the rank of Supreme Commander of the Navy. After his demotion, once invincible 400+ ships strong Korean armada under a different commander was decimated by the Japanese Navy.. Only 12 ships survived the battle. Because of this catastrophic disaster, Admiral Yi was reinstated as the Supereme Commander and led this rag-tag army of 12 ships to victory against 130 Japanese armada. If that's not the most dramatic setup for a climax, I don't know what is ;D
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Sept 5, 2004 0:57:30 GMT -5
one of the few cases where truth is more interesting than fiction i think
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Sept 5, 2004 0:59:42 GMT -5
another interesting fact
though allied with the koreans (chosun), china (myung nah lah in the show) had a few admirals who gave in to the temptation of japanese bribes and this caused more than its fair share of problems for the admiral yi sun shin's campaign
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Post by Michael on Sept 5, 2004 23:11:14 GMT -5
Another tidbit on General Yi. A recent KBS documentary covered the Japanese view of General Yi and it was very surprising.
Instead of viewing him as an evil general that had killed tens of thousands of brave Japanese soldiers, he is deeply honored and he has also been deified for a very long time. Shockingly, he is more respected in Japan than he is in Korea. In Japan, he is known as the god of the sea, a Greek equivalent of Poseidon.
Anyhow, with some understanding of Japanese culture (i.e. practice of 'complete surrender' to the more powerful one), one can easily see how such General Yi worship came to be. The fact exists to show the powerful impact General Yi had left in Japanese psyche for many generations.
I'm also looking forward to this drama as well.
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Sept 5, 2004 23:31:21 GMT -5
you know
i was not as surprised by the fact that the japanese respected yi sun shin as i was by the fact that the history told to them was accurate and unchanged by japanese historians of that time. you would think that after such a crushing defeat the shame would have caused them to change a few things
can they really honor him more than the koreans? i don't know. it seems a lot of korean people hold the admiral close to their hearts even though he died over 4 centuries ago. i read an article recently where there was a furor over moving the statue of him. all these people were outraged at the idea of moving the admiral from his prominent spot
well i can't say for the japanese, but he's been and always will be one of my heros, and i hope this inspires the current generation to emulate his example.
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Nov 1, 2004 17:40:28 GMT -5
when the japanese bribed chen lien to open an escape route for japanese prisoners to flee, chen wanted admiral yi to approve the idea (in my opinion that was a stupid thing to even wonder). he told yi that if they let the japanese go, that they could do a mopping up operation on the islands and claim many cut off heads as prizes. yi got very angry with this and said that the heads chen would be cutting would be chosun refugees. the notion that chen would let the wae nom enemy escape and kill chosun instead infuriated him. when Yi told chen lien that he knew that he had been dealing with the japanese, chen lien became embarrassed and told the japanese envoy that he could not see him anymore. too bad yu jeong didn't have as much of a conscience
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Post by luvarchfiend on Nov 1, 2004 23:32:35 GMT -5
-the admiral regularly sent messengers to his family home in asan inquiring after his mother's health -hist two older brothers died early, and the admiral took it upon himself to feed and care for their children his two older brothers? 2? in the series there is only one. they really did take liberties with his childhood didn't they?
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Nov 2, 2004 22:12:45 GMT -5
actually, they did mention hui shin and yoo shin. in episode 5, soon shin mentions his two older brothers (sorry, my fault for not putting that in the summaries)
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Post by luvarchfiend on Nov 2, 2004 22:44:10 GMT -5
well 10 lashes for you. ;D
so we saw one older brother, where is the other supposed to be?
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