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Post by galacticchick on Feb 23, 2005 13:39:26 GMT -5
DD says that Hee-soo should be washing them since she's the DIL. Then what exactly is ESM going to do? She said she didn't want to work b/c she would rather stay home and look after the household....it doesn't seem like she's doing anything much. I think ESM was mad at HS b/c of the whole gold bar and jewelry stuff...my goodness ! Thank you! That's what I've been saying all along. Why doesn't Jinkook tell his father and his mother what he told Hesoo, that those gold bars no longer belong to them because he had to sell his inherited land in order to save the company after GD stupidly passed all power to ESM and ESM got scammed out of a lot of it by Mr. Park. Besides, she did get the jewelry back.
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Post by Lovely on Feb 23, 2005 16:53:37 GMT -5
Yeah, ESM is really lucky to have gotten back her jewelry. Hee-soo asked Jin-kook once if she could take one piece of jewelry and give the rest back to ESM. Jin-kook was like, "You decide." ESM should keep in mind that HS did end up giving ALL the jewelry back. Does ESM really expect the gold bars back too? Ok, so they belong to her, but she was the one that ran out on the family. HS was the one that got DD to calm down and get the family back together. No credit goes to HS of course. So ESM comes back into their lives and expects things to go back the way it was ?
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Post by BAE on Feb 23, 2005 19:21:23 GMT -5
in today's episode, ESM says "i really worked hard... i don't wanna c hee's parents use our money..." Yeah.. i agree. she worked really hard... PLOTTING REVENGE! bet that took a lot out of her!
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Post by Soju on Feb 23, 2005 22:38:26 GMT -5
I'm wondering if ESM really believes all that poison about Hee-soo she's feeding Duk-bae, or if she has some secret agenda to tear the family apart. Maybe she thinks if she can get the gold bars back, she can try to steal them again.
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Post by hachiue on Feb 24, 2005 1:36:29 GMT -5
That scene really pissed me off too - where ESM was saying that she worked really hard for that money while they were off playing and DD actually agreed. Okay, as far as I know, Jinkook's ORIGINAL mom made a lot of that and then Jinkook was the CEO so technically he made it. ESM was only CEO for a few months and she's saying that she worked hard and made all that money then? Not freaking likely. Besides there were other employees too - and it's not like they were ever appreciated since apparently they never got bonuses.
Also, yeah, I say the gold's Jinkook's because he lost his inheritance. You don't see ESM saying "Ooh I feel bad and want to make it up to him. I'll buy back his land in Yusung" and you don't hear DD ever saying anything about it even though he was *adamant* that Jinkook leave it alone.
They're just worried about Heesoo being a golddigger because that's what they are. It's like the conversation that Heesoo and Jinkook had in the car about what they lived for. Both DD and ESM have chosen money.
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Post by galacticchick on Feb 24, 2005 14:10:52 GMT -5
They really need to have a face-off, better yet a dance off:
ESM & GD vs. Hesoo and Jinkook
well start off w/the twist, continue w/a paso doble followed by a fox trot and then on to an interpretive dance number.
Winner keeps the gold bars, loser keeps their mouths shut.
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Post by TheBo on Feb 24, 2005 14:15:51 GMT -5
I still don't understand some things, even though I've read through all these posts and others on the board trying to figure it out.
1) ESM's parents and brother were injured in an accident with a truck belonging to DD's company. ESM thought DD was driving, but it turns out he had no license and he says it was an ex-employee of ESM's father out for revenge (which he condoned, by the way). Do we assume that trucking company is out of business? Did it occur to anyone else that the unknown driver was really Mr. Park?
2) According to someone earlier in this thread, ESM killed Jin-kook's real mother. How did that happen? How'd she get away with it? And what kind of nerve does she have, bowing at the woman's grave?
3) Did the mortgage company originally belong to Jin-kook's mom and/or her family? I thought DD had built it up and then abandoned it to ESM to run.
4) Mr. Park was whom to ESM, besides a family friend?
Bo
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Post by jenny on Feb 24, 2005 14:22:17 GMT -5
They really need to have a face-off, better yet a dance off: ESM & GD vs. Hesoo and Jinkook well start off w/the twist, continue w/a paso doble followed by a fox trot and then on to an interpretive dance number. Winner keeps the gold bars, loser keeps their mouths shut. ;D Now that would make for some great TV!!! ;D I take back what I said about DD acting like a monkey. Monkeys can learn sign language, DD is a lost cause. They should put a warning sign around his neck, like the signs they have at the zoo: "Don't wave at the Duk-bae." These two make me sick, I really wish they would leave the country, or take a drive with Jung-hee (I'm sorry, bad joke, but every time they mention Jung-hee's car accident I picture that Saturday Night Live sketch, "Toonces the Driving Cat." Everyone's driving off of cliffs in this drama!)
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Post by jenny on Feb 24, 2005 14:28:21 GMT -5
I still don't understand some things, even though I've read through all these posts and others on the board trying to figure it out. 1) ESM's parents and brother were injured in an accident with a truck belonging to DD's company. ESM thought DD was driving, but it turns out he had no license and he says it was an ex-employee of ESM's father out for revenge (which he condoned, by the way). Do we assume that trucking company is out of business? Did it occur to anyone else that the unknown driver was really Mr. Park? This occured to me, too. DD seems to know who the driver was, but won't tell. That would be awesome if it were Mr. Park! It would blow ESM's mind! ;D 2) According to someone earlier in this thread, ESM killed Jin-kook's real mother. How did that happen? How'd she get away with it? And what kind of nerve does she have, bowing at the woman's grave? THANK YOU!! This is my major beef with this woman, she's a murderer. The only reason she's gotten away with it is the same reason she's gotten away with her latest crime: DD and Jin-kook are morons.
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Post by TheBo on Feb 24, 2005 14:31:07 GMT -5
THANK YOU!! This is my major beef with this woman, she's a murderer. The only reason she's gotten away with it is the same reason she's gotten away with her latest crime: DD and Jin-kook are morons. Well, now I'm having to laugh at myself for not being clear. No, what I meant was, how did she kill her? (But I agree completely on your point about the morons.) Bo
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Post by Lucy on Feb 24, 2005 14:31:55 GMT -5
I don't think it was ever established that ESM killed Jin-kook's mom. There was suspicion and speculation, but it was never followed up. Can anyone correct me or back me up?
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Post by jenny on Feb 24, 2005 14:44:45 GMT -5
Yeah, JK suspects that ESM slowly poisoned his mom, since she died from a mysterious disease. And on her deathbed, she warned him never to trust her, or to be careful of her, I don't remember which. I also don't remember if she mentioned that she suspected ESM poisoned her. I think ESM did it (but I also thought Jung-ae's ring was fake, so don't trust me).
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Post by Lucy on Feb 24, 2005 15:22:29 GMT -5
'Course, that could mean anything, including that she just didn't trust her because of the family history. Maybe she knew ESM (at that time known only as Evil Daughter of Family Enemy, or EDFE) would have it in for her little family someday.
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Post by TheBo on Feb 24, 2005 15:46:44 GMT -5
Yeah, JK suspects that ESM slowly poisoned his mom, since she died from a mysterious disease. And on her deathbed, she warned him never to trust her, or to be careful of her, I don't remember which. I also don't remember if she mentioned that she suspected ESM poisoned her. I think ESM did it (but I also thought Jung-ae's ring was fake, so don't trust me). So ESM was a companion or nurse or servant or something in their home? I just don't get how she got access. Bo
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Post by galacticchick on Feb 24, 2005 17:43:32 GMT -5
So ESM was a companion or nurse or servant or something in their home? I just don't get how she got access. Bo She used to be a secretary for Jinkook's mom. When ESM's parents were killed they were very young, so I suppose that she didn't recognize her as an adult once she was working for her. Or maybe not. Point is that she was a secretary for their little loan shark business, later on she was "nice enough" to help care for the ailing mother, mother dies, she attracts the attention of Ape Dad and they get married.
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