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Post by toranaga on Feb 14, 2005 20:57:56 GMT -5
I do not know what young shil's problem is with heesoo but this has gone beyond a struggle for control of the household,she is tryilng to destroy heesoo's relationship with her father- in- law.she constantly fills dumbdad's head with her opinion of hee-soo's actions as if they are established fact,you would think that she would have learned after the last incident,but not her.she has to start more trouble for hee-soo,I think jin-kook is going to take a stand in support of hee-soo soon if not, he doesn't care about the happiness of his wife or the healthy birth of their child,young-lan was so correct when she told JK not to worry about his dad and just worry about hee-soo and her baby.IF my wife was in tears everytime I came home the person responsible would hear from me and they wouldn't like what I had to say.
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Post by panther on Feb 14, 2005 22:08:48 GMT -5
at first i thought that jin kook was staying neutral to keep from causeing unneccesary trouble, but now i think he's just insensitive to hee-soo's feelings. i mean he needs to intervene or something. they really need to move out.
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Post by Enia on Feb 15, 2005 2:17:28 GMT -5
ESM is a very presumptuous woman. Her actions practically destroyed the family. She waltzed back in without an apology to anyone & now demands respect from HS, who did so much to sustain the family in a time of crisis & to secure ESM's return to the family. I don't understand the change in ESM's & HS's relationship. But I wonder if has to do with the original contract between them. Is it still in existence? If so, HS would feel obliged to honour it & that would change the dynamics of the relationship. She is bound to ESM for life! What does everyone else think?
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Post by galacticchick on Feb 15, 2005 10:24:34 GMT -5
Well I didn't see anyone notarize that "contract" so it's not like it's legally binding or anything. Besides, I'd say they are just about even. Besides, it wasn't even ESM who called off the auction, it was Jinkook who payed off the debt. So ESM never really went through w/her part of the agreement, therefore I'd say it was off.
That is a weak argument from ESM, "I want to stay together so that I can be nice to Jinkook" HA! You want to stay together so you can have a live in maid and a babysitter at your beck and call.
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Post by momo19 on Feb 15, 2005 12:03:19 GMT -5
Heesoo said that she doesn't feel obligated to the contract anymore to the ESM (not quite sure which episode she said it in)...
Everytime i see ESM talking to jinkook's dad, i get so upset..because its like he is so dumb. I mean, he knows all the things that ESM did to him in the past, and yet he still believes her when she talks bad about Heesoo. You guys are right, Heesoo did so much for this family to be together, and yet she doesn't even get any type of gratitude. They give Heesoo such a hard time.
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Post by Lovely on Feb 15, 2005 13:09:39 GMT -5
I'm especially mad at Jin-kook's dad aka Dumb Dad because he never thinks for himself. He always goes by what ESM says. She's so manipulative! I'm still shocked that DD would even sleep in the same room with ESM again after she ran out on him and the family last time. ESM didn't even come visit him when he was in a coma. I remember Hee-soo being by his side at the hospital telling him to wake up becaus everything was going to be just fine. DD doesn't seem to care though. When he woke up from his coma, the first thing he said was, "Young-shil."
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Post by BAE on Feb 15, 2005 17:29:15 GMT -5
and who was there for him during the whole coma ordeal? it isn't the woman with the pretty smile and sneaky eyes he shares what's become of his bed with every night. it was heesoo. how can people just morph into some1 else once they feel the other person is of no use? and jin-kook. he's another story. "tell ESM to be nice to hee-soo?" what is he her friend or her HUSBAND!? he has responsibilites and he needs to properly execute them. if he's a business man doing all sorts of trade-offs all the time, why can't he come up with a proper resolution to this matter? it's getting way too much out of control. i am proud of hee-soo. she stood her ground with ESM. Wise girl. didn't go around yelling. got her point across icily.
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Post by hachiue on Feb 15, 2005 17:53:31 GMT -5
They are seriously in need of a family meeting wherein Heesoo tells them all off for talking about her behind her back and accusing her of lying. This family needs openness and I have no idea why they haven't realized that yet. I don't think they will either until Jinkook starts to support her and stop just floating in his dream of a "happy family."
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Post by Lovely on Feb 16, 2005 10:55:52 GMT -5
After seeing how ESM and DD were talking badly about Hee-soo at the park bench or wherever it was, I was even more mad. Hee-soo is at home cleaning and all these two selfish goofs could do is talk about the stupid jewels and gold bars . HS has done a lot for the family and it was sad seeing her cry while sitting on her bed. She was forcing herself to say that she was a happy woman, "Koh Hee-soo, why are you crying? I'm a happy woman. My husband, Ahn Jin-kook loves me. My parents-in-law adore me." I felt so sad for Hee-soo .
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Post by galacticchick on Feb 16, 2005 11:02:45 GMT -5
I know, that was so sad. I haven't been the biggest fan of Hesoo lately, but I think that they would treat an Ajumma better than they do her.
I keep telling you, these characters are just so darn inconsistent. Last week, I could have sworn I heard ESM say that she wanted to be a housewife because she should look after Jinsoo who is her son, next week, she's out golfing.
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Post by BAE on Feb 16, 2005 21:44:12 GMT -5
this last episode makes me wanna puke. ESM said what? "shut up?" if i was hee i would walk into their room and slap her, not cry. well, hee was probably so hurt she had to cry. and DB doesn't do anything about it. he just sits there. then he'll go behind hee's back and say that she's a bad girl! oh! maybe hee can understand how YL felt in her mother's house.
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Post by panther on Feb 16, 2005 23:23:14 GMT -5
why the hell wont jin-kook move out? i mean really...whats keeping him there? i dont get it! i just dont get it.
and if hee-soo was REALLY tired as she claims to be she would leave.
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Post by sandy on Feb 16, 2005 23:55:53 GMT -5
With a baby on the way, I think Jin-Kook likes the support of his family. If he gets his own place, he'll have to become self-supporting. Maybe he's counting on his family to be there to help take care of the new baby so that he doesn't have to be tied down if Hee-Soo works.
Jin-Kook's family has it made with Hee-Soo at home. ESM, basking in her new role as "Mother" has Hee-Soo to take care of Jin-Soo when she and Golfer Dad take off. It seems that Jin-Kook is fairly amused by all this, not really taking Hee-Soo seriously. He's nothing like Jae-Min who would do anything to make Jae-Hae happy after her operation.
I still think that Jin-Kook has his eyes on Young-lan as a young, ambitious woman while seeing Hee-Soo as a house-bond wife catering to him and his family.
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Post by Lucy on Feb 17, 2005 11:07:41 GMT -5
Last night was the last straw. I mean, I used to think that ESM was just weird and mean and didn't realize that she had no right to act superior to Hee-soo. But last night, I changed my mind: the woman is a crazy b*tch.
How can she fly off the handle like that and not even let Hee-soo explain where she was? OK, it was wrong for HS to leave Jin-soo alone--we know he likes babies, and she could have brought him along--but it was just a mistake, and if she framed it as having been an emergency, I don't think anyone would have blamed her. In terms of helplessness and vulnerability, I think a baby clearly takes precedence over a placid, quiet, mentally challenged 16-year-old who can occupy himself for short periods of time. Good for her for talking back and saying, "You're so unfair not to even let me finish my explanation" (I can't remember exactly how she put it).
I think the look on Dad's face at the end might mean that he's finally realizing that ESM is not the most reliable source when it comes to information on Hee-soo and her motives. I mean, he's got to see that ESM was totally off the wall in that conversation.
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Post by galacticchick on Feb 17, 2005 11:59:26 GMT -5
You guys should have seen me yesterday. Yelling at the tv, "Don't leave Jinsoo alone, they'll walk in just as you leave! Don't be dumb Hesoo, dont be duuuuuuumb!"
I thought the same thing Lucy, why not take Jinsoo along, but then she'd probably have to wait for him to change, and if she just took him like that, with his paint filled clothes then she'd get yelled at for presenting him like that in public.
I don't understand why Jaemin's mom couldn't drop off the baby at Hesoo's house. Did she just not want to take him outside? And for goodness sakes I just realized that that poor baby's natural color is not naturally pink, the little baby must be boiling underneath all those thick heavy covers all the time.
If Jinkook still doesn't want to move out, she needs to go somewhere. And ask her aunt to resolve her alimony issues.
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