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Post by seven stars on Sept 27, 2004 15:31:38 GMT -5
Hopefully more people have an opinion about this, as more of us have seen AOW than EWG.
Several have already expressed their opinions about this on or through other threads, such as "Strongest character not named Yi."
I would like to hear direct opinions with regard to the comparison of these two warriors. Both created movements of their own. These were militant movements that involved the training of elite forces at their command. Most who saw all of Yi Ko's role in AOW will agree that he is perhaps the most magnetic of the characters in this series. It can be argued that KDS fared better against the Archfiend than did Yi Ko. So if you judge them by their common opponent, General Kyung has a strong case. Many Yi Ko fans will despise the fact that I even post this, but I want to know.
Who is greater and why?
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Post by ID on Sept 27, 2004 15:51:41 GMT -5
excuse me? what is this? go watch the first ten episodes.
anyway, yi ko fared better against the archfiend. in case you forgot, he was able to stab the archfiend TWICE during the fight. kds, with the aid of ONE HUNDRED others, couldn't get a single hit. and yi ko had bravery, and honor. it took kds an entire lifetime to gather the balls to fight the chungs, and even longer to fight huh seung.
if you had been watching since day one, you would likely see that comparing the two, is like comparing oil and water. with yi ko being the oil.
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Post by seven stars on Sept 27, 2004 17:12:16 GMT -5
I'm not saying what i think about this, I simply feel that it is a legitimate discussion to have based on what we have seen.
And I did watch it from the beginning.
Strength is not the only virtue to be valued in a warrior.
It wasn't fear that kept KDS from taking action, it was a desire to move in righteousness. He cannot be faulted for this. How can you not see that?
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Post by ID on Sept 27, 2004 17:18:35 GMT -5
i just can't see it. i for one, got into the show, when i saw the subak match in the first episode. my favorite characters are either martial arts gods, or beautiful women. we are all entitled to our opinion. and mine is that kds should've been a preacher, instead of a warrior.
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Post by seven stars on Sept 29, 2004 13:10:55 GMT -5
Didn't the Archfiend tell Buyong that no one had ever fought him the way Kyung Dae Sung did that night. The first time that they fought. In addition to that , it is clear that KDS impact on this period is greater than Yi Ko's.
When I first wrote this I felt that Yi Ko had to be the greater of the two. The more we talk about this, the more I realize that the KDS argument is probably the stronger one.
In addition, it is important to remember that the one who is quicker to fight is not necessarily the better fighter.
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Post by skinz on Sept 29, 2004 16:15:21 GMT -5
I, personally, think Yi Ko would win the fight. Yi Ko was a hot-tempered warrior that didn't take nothing from nobody whether it be Yi Ui Bang,Che Won, or the Archfiend. Kyung was fighter, but he was a knowledable fighter that would've set a trap for Yi Ko and try to leave the fight. Yi Ko, on the other hand, would've used everything in his power to kill kyung. So it all comes down to who have the most will power. I vote for Yi Ko.
The most smartest and dignified person isn't nothing without will.
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Post by ID on Sept 29, 2004 17:26:57 GMT -5
well said. what you said about yi ko, for some reason brings to mind a quote from the movie casino. said by ace rothstein "you beat nicky with you fists, he'll come back with a bat; you beat him with a knive, he'll come back with a gun; and if you beat nicky with a gun, you better kill him, because he'll just be coming back and back untill one of you, is dead" except, of course, in this case, it's yi ko.
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Post by TheIceTiger on Sept 30, 2004 0:08:47 GMT -5
If it's brains, KDS definaly will win. But if it's a one on one battle, a Physico maniac like Yi Ko will cut KDS to pieces.
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Post by mace_windu on Sept 30, 2004 17:39:22 GMT -5
So if you judge them by their common opponent, General Kyung has a strong case. Many Yi Ko fans will despise the fact that I even post this, but I want to know. Who is greater and why? The common opponent comparison might be a little misleading though, as quite a few years had passed between the time Yi Ko and Archfiend fought and KDS and Archfiend squared off. Granted Archfiend was still strong in his later years but even he acknowleged that he was getting older and his skills were diminishing. Boxing fans like to discuss mythical matchups between boxers "in their prime"--younger and at the height of their abilities. It's my belief that the Archfiend that fought Yi Ko would have wiped the floor with KDS in a one-to-one clash. As for Yi Ko vs. KDS, I would say the same. For me it's hard to envision any of the 3 Yis losing to anyone in a one-on-one unless it's amongst themselves. Or maybe I just keep seeing KDS as a pretty boy. ;D
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Post by ID on Sept 30, 2004 18:54:00 GMT -5
i'm with you, mace. how can you compare someone who wears pink silk clothing, {and forces his crew to wear it too. hell, dobang's true cause was probably to end all crimes against fashion} to someone who wears iron {or steel} armor, and has twin swords hanging on his back. and he ain't afraid to use it.
you know, i could only imagine what yi ko would say if kds wanted to fight him:
"what the hell? you wanna fight me? i got two big a$s blades on my back! each of them weighs twice as much as you do!" {screaming in a voice that sounds like dave chappelle}
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Post by Chung Kyun on Oct 1, 2004 0:02:59 GMT -5
yi ko would be to crazy to win. he would get out of control and stab hiself. lets call the actors and tell them to dress up and beat each other up, then we would know who would win. che won vs zhang fei ( i would pay to see that fight. )
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Post by ID on Oct 3, 2004 14:34:04 GMT -5
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Post by Another Archfiend Fan on Oct 3, 2004 23:53:03 GMT -5
Although I would hold a higher regard for Yi Ko as a warrior (at least as presented in the series), I would disagree that Yi Ko fared better in his battle with the Archfiend. Yes, Yi Ko fought a young Archfiend at the peak of his skills, but did he fare better?? If I recall, when all is said and done, Yi Ko was dead. It is hard to imagine KDS fared worse than dead.
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Post by ID on Oct 4, 2004 13:52:34 GMT -5
yi ko wasn't killed by the archfiend. he commited suicide, like a true warrior. when kds lost, he told the archfiend that he woldn't make it out alive, because pansy-boy had one hundred dobang losers five feet away. yi ko KNOCKED THE ARCHFIEND FROM HIS HORSE< AND GAVE HIM TWO WOUNDS.
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Post by Chung Kyun on Oct 4, 2004 20:38:34 GMT -5
yi ko wasn't killed by the archfiend. he commited suicide, like a true warrior. when kds lost, he told the archfiend that he woldn't make it out alive, because pansy-boy had one hundred dobang losers five feet away. yi ko KNOCKED THE ARCHFIEND FROM HIS HORSE< AND GAVE HIM TWO WOUNDS. kyung didn't lose, they both were just matched about the same. i remember bu-yong healing the archfiend beat up body. kyung was hurt too. but if the archfiend really did win he could had choped kyung head off even if dobang was there. no excuse for the archfiend to chicken out and not kill the man you said lost the fight ( kyung dae-seung).
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