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Post by jacques on May 18, 2004 12:07:05 GMT -5
It's official--I love you, Jacques! ;D Bo Aaaawwww!! ;D
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Post by jacques on May 18, 2004 12:21:04 GMT -5
I was just wondering...if Yu-kyung's qualities are so great, I wonder why she didn't fall in love with someone like herself....I can understand why Hye-sung fell in love with her...but not because he is a masochist, which he's not, wanting to always be on the receiving end.... But Yu-kyung fell in love with a man who stood his ground when it mattered...who saw things from a different perspective.....someone who didn't allow himself to always be intimidated, who embodied leadership and moral qualities that she lacked! A man who was very caring and concerned, and very protective of her! If anything, she fell in love with a man who was very appealing to her FEMININE side......Oh, and let's not forget Hye-sung's sense of humor! Yu-kyung certainly loved that about him too! Eaglestorm reminded us of that episode where Yu-kyung allowed herself to be manhandled by those drunks, but after a brief argument outside their hotel rooms, she couldn't get the incident out of her mind... but her pride couldn't allow her to admit she was wrong, and she knew it.....In that incident, Hye-sung proved that he too was a LEADER when it really mattered, and she had to follow his lead...He exercised strong moral leadership and showed her that there was more to life than just closing another deal, that her human dignity was of greater importance...Notice that when she went back to salvage the contract, she promptly returned on the last bus as Hye-sung had insisted, and he was there waiting for her, even though it was past 2 AM....And the next day, Hye-sung became "radiant" in her eyes! She could have gone drinking and returned late the following morning...but if she kept that up, sooner or later, someone would have slipped a date-rape drug in her drink, and the next morning, she would wake up in a hotel room with five guys next to her........ And of course, what about the time when he covered her with his body to protect her from falling building materials...and ended up with all those cuts and bruises....Or even when he ran out in the falling rain to get an umbrella, so that she wouldn't get drenched, never mind that he becaming soaking wet...Then again, I don't think he minded that much...especially since it led to that incident back in the hotel room....heheheheh! Now that's real LEADERSHIP! Good point. So I guess we can deduce from Redstone's argument that: 1. Opposites attract in a Lady Boss & Male Subordinate kinda way (hears the moderator: "Nuff with the Paula Abdul & Jackie Collins references already!" ;D). 2. Behind every successful, professionally strong woman, there is an equally spiritually strong man (sort of gender karma payback for what goes on in the other drama, AOW ). 3. The lesson for "poor-as-a-church-mouse" (and looking like one) men is that if you want to get one of these powerful, rich Korean drama women CEOs/GMs u got 2b a. a comedian, b. prepare to throw your body in front of a moving vehicle for her, c. wear ridiculous pink pjs? ;D
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Post by Seoul Calibur on May 26, 2004 17:14:04 GMT -5
3 cheers for Yu-Kyung. She is probably the only positively empowered woman on OMR. Self-made, self-assured, urban, professional, entrepreneurial lady who can hold her own against all the power-mongers on the series. Notice that nobody dares bully/talk down to her--not the Ohs, not RH, nobody! That prestige comes from having your own money, heading your own business, .......What a gal!! Well...reading this post, for the most part, one could be describing another person...Martha Stewart! And we all know what happened to her! And it has been pointed out by others, Yu-kyung has some serious character and personality flaws (just like ol' Martha...) which could lead to her ruin. All the money, prestige, or talent in the world wouldn't have mattered one bit....
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Post by jacques on May 26, 2004 17:34:39 GMT -5
Well...reading this post, for the most part, one could be describing another person...Martha Stewart! And we all know what happened to her! And it has been pointed out by others, Yu-kyung has some serious character and personality flaws (just like ol' Martha...) which could lead to her ruin. All the money, prestige, or talent in the world wouldn't have mattered one bit.... Sooner or later they find out...it IS lonely at the top.
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Post by TheBo on May 26, 2004 20:01:51 GMT -5
Oh, cripes. Can we lay off the image of the lonely, unfulfilled career woman? "She's only a bird in a gilded cage..." Yu-kyung doesn't seem to be hurting in the home life department, and whatever her past mistakes and faults, she's a good person now. Martha Stewart has a personality disorder, and it's called "control freak"--Yu-kyung does not have that problem.
Bo
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Post by jacques on May 26, 2004 22:04:00 GMT -5
Oh, cripes. Can we lay off the image of the lonely, unfulfilled career woman? "She's only a bird in a gilded cage..." Yu-kyung doesn't seem to be hurting in the home life department, and whatever her past mistakes and faults, she's a good person now. Martha Stewart has a personality disorder, and it's called "control freak"--Yu-kyung does not have that problem. Bo Martha does overdo it a bit doesn't she. I can't imagine her putting in a few hours behind the cash register at her in-laws' startup Korean joint, after leaving her own corporate headquarters, unlike Yu-kyung.
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Post by redstone911 on May 26, 2004 22:26:03 GMT -5
Oh, cripes. Can we lay off the image of the lonely, unfulfilled career woman? "She's only a bird in a gilded cage..." Yu-kyung doesn't seem to be hurting in the home life department, and whatever her past mistakes and faults, she's a good person now. Martha Stewart has a personality disorder, and it's called "control freak"--Yu-kyung does not have that problem. Bo Actually, I don't think that is the issue. The similarity btw Yu-kyung and Martha Stewart is that both were guilty of behavior that reveal a lack of moral or ethical character.....Both were guided by the same drive for financial gain, with little or no thought about the reckless nature, or consequences of their actions...... Martha Stewart got intangled in an insider trading scandal involving her Imclone stock, of which she was found guilty. The actual transaction and money involved was of little benefit to her. She could have gotten away with a fine of less than $500,000, and no jail time, but noooooo, she insisted on doing things her way (pleading innocent....), dragging the case for a longer period, and finally getting nailed! The result was she brought her own financial empire down with her, when it didn't have to be that way. And of course, we all know Yu-kyung with her drunken clients, and the things she did with them....All it takes is one incident...one reckless incident, and she could ruin everything she worked so hard to build! That says a lot about her character, than anything else.
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Post by jacques on May 26, 2004 22:33:18 GMT -5
Actually, I don't think that is the issue. The similarity btw Yu-kyung and Martha Stewart is that both were guilty of behavior that reveal a lack of moral or ethical character.....Both were guided by the same drive for financial gain, with little or no thought about the reckless nature, or consequences of their actions...... Martha Stewart got intangled in an insider trading scandal involving her Imclone stock, of which she was found guilty. The actual transaction and money involved was of little benefit to her. She could have gotten away with a fine of less than $500,000, and no jail time, but noooooo, she insisted on doing things her way (pleading innocent....), dragging the case for a longer period, and finally getting nailed! The result was she brought her own financial empire down with her, when it didn't have to be that way. And of course, we all know Yu-kyung with her drunken clients, and the things she did with them....All it takes is one incident...one reckless incident, and she could ruin everything she worked so hard to build! That says a lot about her character, than anything else. Yea, she let her Donna Karan power suits get to her head.
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Post by XB70 on May 26, 2004 22:40:16 GMT -5
Imagine for a minute if Andrew Luster had been a client of Yu-kyung and they went out drinking to celebrate the signing of a contract....Andrew slips GHB in Yu-kyung's drink, and she's knocked out, then he drives her to his apartment or beach house....and video tapes himself doing the dirty deed (just like what he did with all those women he picked up....)....As someone else mentioned before, it wouldn't matter at all if she were rich, famous, and talented....
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Post by jacques on May 26, 2004 22:41:53 GMT -5
Imagine for a minute if Andrew Luster had been a client of Yu-kyung and they went out drinking to celebrate the signing of a contract....Andrew slips GHB in Yu-kyung's drink, and she's knocked out, then he drives her to his apartment or beach house....and video tapes himself doing the dirty deed (just like what he did with all those women he picked up....)....As someone else mentioned before, it wouldn't matter at all if she were rich, famous, and talented.... I hope to God Yu-Kyung remembers her college tae-kwon-do moves!
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Post by Cherry on May 27, 2004 2:25:27 GMT -5
I didn't see anything about Yu-kyung banging the clients. She was in a situation where they (the clients) were touchy-feely with her and when called on it, she said she's been there before and knows how to handle herself.
I don't think she would lower herself to sex for a contract, that's another profession all together.
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Post by TheBo on May 27, 2004 10:37:13 GMT -5
I didn't see anything about Yu-kyung banging the clients. She was in a situation where they (the clients) were touchy-feely with her and when called on it, she said she's been there before and knows how to handle herself. I don't think she would lower herself to sex for a contract, that's another profession all together. AT LAST! Yes, THANK YOU, Cherry, that's my point, too. The posters to this thread are villifying Yu-kyung, imagining the horror of her behavior, making her sound like a power-hungry, oversexed (and what is that, really?) maneater. I just don't see it. And if she made some mistakes in judgment in the past, she's way over that now. Martha Stewart, my p'tootie. (Oh, yeah--I still love y'all, IN SPITE OF YOUR MISBEGOTTEN VIEWS. ) Bo
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Post by galacticchick on May 27, 2004 13:45:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I think that it is a somewhat unfair comparison. I mean it would be unrealistic to portray YK as the “perfect” wife because we are not perfect. The whole reason we love these K-dramas is that they are closer to reality than the American counterparts.
So she made a few mistakes and held her tongue when she was harassed but I don’t hear anyone criticizing the perpetrators. It almost seems like people are judging her on a different standard simply because she is a woman. Everyone (including myself) defend Minjae although he is in a similar situation. Yes, he’s a hard worker and he’s more than capable for the job but you can’t deny the fact or at least the suspicion that he got to where he is so quickly because of the fact that he’s the president’s son. I think this is simply a case of a double standard.
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Post by XB70 on May 27, 2004 22:44:12 GMT -5
I didn't see anything about Yu-kyung banging the clients. She was in a situation where they (the clients) were touchy-feely with her and when called on it, she said she's been there before and knows how to handle herself. I don't think she would lower herself to sex for a contract, that's another profession all together. I think there is a misunderstanding here...I believe the point being made by those critical about Yu-kyung, is that Yu-kyung, like Martha Stewart, has engaged in reckless behavior that could lead to grave consequences. One consequence is that her actions could cause certain people, to speculate, rightly or wrongly, about what kind of person she really is...and her personal and business reputation may suffer as a result. And of course, there is the possibility of rape via date-rape drugs, or just by getting Yu-kyung completely plastered. Sooner or later, some sicko client will pull out a digital camera or video-cam and Yu-kyung will be all over the internet ala' Paris Hilton! I don't think anyone seriously suggests that a sober Yu-kyung would willfully engage in "banging" her clients, but once she is really drunk, well...we can only speculate.... Personally, I don't know of anyone, man or woman, having had a bit too much to drink, who can honestly say that they are still in control of the situation....
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Post by jacques on May 27, 2004 22:46:44 GMT -5
I think there is a misunderstanding here...I believe the point being made by those critical about Yu-kyung, is that Yu-kyung, like Martha Stewart, has engaged in reckless behavior that could lead to grave consequences. One consequence is that her actions could cause certain people, to speculate, rightly or wrongly, about what kind of person she really is...and her personal and business reputation may suffer as a result. And of course, there is the possibility of rape via date-rape drugs, or just by getting Yu-kyung completely plastered. Sooner or later, some sicko client will pull out a digital camera or video-cam and Yu-kyung will be all over the internet ala' Paris Hilton! I don't think anyone seriously suggests that a sober Yu-kyung would willfully engage in "banging" her clients, but once she is really drunk, well...we can only speculate.... Personally, I don't know of anyone, man or woman, having had a bit too much to drink, who can honestly say that they are still in control of the situation.... Let's hope Hye-Sung will be around to prevent that in the event it occurs...that's the least a HUSBAND can do!
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