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Post by jacques on May 15, 2004 11:25:09 GMT -5
3 cheers for Yu-Kyung. She is probably the only positively empowered woman on OMR. Self-made, self-assured, urban, professional, entrepreneurial lady who can hold her own against all the power-mongers on the series. Notice that nobody dares bully/talk down to her--not the Ohs, not RH, nobody! That prestige comes from having your own money, heading your own business, and not letting it go to your head such that you could marry the man YOU love, albeit your subordinate, and doing double duty as cashier at your mom-in-law's new restaurant which you put up the cash for! What a gal!!
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Post by eaglestorm on May 16, 2004 0:11:18 GMT -5
3 cheers for Yu-Kyung. She is probably the only positively empowered woman on OMR. Self-made, self-assured, urban, professional, entrepreneurial lady who can hold her own against all the power-mongers on the series. Notice that nobody dares bully/talk down to her--not the Ohs, not RH, nobody! That prestige comes from having your own money, heading your own business, and not letting it go to your head such that you could marry the man YOU love, albeit your subordinate, and doing double duty as cashier at your mom-in-law's new restaurant which you put up the cash for! What a gal!! Yu-kyung has some admirable qualities, that is true...but in real-life, I think people like her also tend to be very demanding, domineering, and can be very difficult to live with....There is much more to Yu-kyung than just the positive attributes...and we have seen her other side before....Let's just say I'm glad my mother was not like her and I surely would not want to marry someone like that....I think that Yu-kyung and Myung-joo actually share a number of personality and character traits...but that they just happen to be on opposite sides......
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Post by jacques on May 16, 2004 0:33:44 GMT -5
Yu-kyung has some admirable qualities, that is true...but in real-life, I think people like her also tend to be very demanding, domineering, and can be very difficult to live with....There is much more to Yu-kyung than just the positive attributes...and we have seen her other side before....Let's just say I'm glad my mother was not like her and I surely would not want to marry someone like that....I think that Yu-kyung and Myung-joo actually share a number of personality and character traits...but that they just happen to be on opposite sides...... Good point about YK and MJ aka RH/EA both being domineering except one channeling it for a "good" cause and the other for "evil." It's true that even at the head of some very honorable and decent causes, like charity, you often find these alpha types that are in it mainly for the leadership ride. Too bad this drama is PG-rated, had it been a Vegas/OC-type risque' soap, we probably woulda seen YK in an "all-leather" getup as befits her power (trip)! ;D
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Post by HappyCamper on May 16, 2004 11:17:59 GMT -5
Jacques you just want to see YK in leather, don't lie. I thought you were hot for HR though....what happened? lol Now as for me, I just want MJ. *drools on her keyboard*
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Post by jacques on May 16, 2004 13:22:12 GMT -5
Jacques you just want to see YK in leather, don't lie. I thought you were hot for HR though....what happened? lol Now as for me, I just want MJ. *drools on her keyboard* It's called equal opportunity fantasies lol!! ;D
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Post by Lucy on May 17, 2004 10:36:13 GMT -5
I like Yu-kyung a lot, but let's not forget that she is not self-made--her business is an offshoot of her father's, as I understand it. She is apparently also a good businesswoman in her own, right, however.
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Post by TheBo on May 17, 2004 11:53:10 GMT -5
Domineering, alpha type? Do you think Min-jae is a domineering, alpha type? How about In-huan? And what about Mr Suh? He's sure successful. Probably beats his wife when we're not looking.
Geez. She's kind, she's fair, she's certainly more forgiving than her "feminine" sister. She gets things done, she knows how to make up her mind and she helps her family without making judgments or pronouncements on how they should run their lives--how dreadful, she's just like that witch HRH. I think Jacques had the right idea the first time. She's a remarkable character. Her father may have started the business, but there is no question whatsoever who is running it and making a success of it. In "real life" the people who make life worth living are usually the ones who push other people's buttons, the ones who get things done. Let's see--someone who gets things done--isn't that a mother or, lessee, a wife?
Bo
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Post by jacques on May 17, 2004 13:22:15 GMT -5
Domineering, alpha type? Do you think Min-jae is a domineering, alpha type? How about In-huan? And what about Mr Suh? He's sure successful. Probably beats his wife when we're not looking. Geez. She's kind, she's fair, she's certainly more forgiving than her "feminine" sister. She gets things done, she knows how to make up her mind and she helps her family without making judgments or pronouncements on how they should run their lives--how dreadful, she's just like that witch HRH. I think Jacques had the right idea the first time. She's a remarkable character. Her father may have started the business, but there is no question whatsoever who is running it and making a success of it. In "real life" the people who make life worth living are usually the ones who push other people's buttons, the ones who get things done. Let's see--someone who gets things done--isn't that a mother or, lessee, a wife? Bo Oh, thank goodness, for a moment I thought you was gonna call her a b-beta type! ;D
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Post by TheBo on May 17, 2004 14:34:47 GMT -5
Oh, thank goodness, for a moment I thought you was gonna call her a b-beta type! ;D Nah, that would be me, pretending my personality to be otherwise. Then I'd have to visit the psychiatrist and horrify Soon-Young. Bo
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Post by jacques on May 17, 2004 21:58:16 GMT -5
Nah, that would be me, pretending my personality to be otherwise. Then I'd have to visit the psychiatrist and horrify Soon-Young. Bo Kewl! Don't forget to invite her to TheBo's Tae-Bo (that's how I thought you pronounced ur name before media research revealed you weren't Korean ;D) class at 17:00 with instruction by Demi Moore's character in GI Jane .
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Post by eaglestorm on May 18, 2004 3:43:11 GMT -5
Domineering, alpha type? Do you think Min-jae is a domineering, alpha type? How about In-huan? And what about Mr Suh? He's sure successful. Probably beats his wife when we're not looking. Ohhh...interesting! I think comparing those three with Yu-kyung would, pardon the cliche', be like apples to oranges! Is Min-Jae a domineering alpha type? From what I can recall, I have yet to see Min-jae berate a sub-ordinate at Joyland...at least, not in the same manner as Yu-kyung has....I do recall, when Yu-kyung was falling in love with Hye-sung, she subconsciously eased up on him, enough to cause Yu-jin to notice, why Yu-kyung was being nice to Hye-sung all of a sudden...when he was often on the receiving end of her daily tirades........I recall Yu-jin reminding Yu-kyung that she called one of their employees a pig because he took a lunch break, or something like that.....If constantly berating subordinates and subjecting them to daily tirades is Yu-kyung's way of exercising corporate managment, I'm sure glad she's not my boss! ...Although Hyo-kyung is President of her own architectural firm, and comes from a very wealthy respectable family, she has allowed drunken clients to fondle her in public , until an outraged Hye-sung apparently put a stop to that...one of the most memorable episodes in this series....and I do recall her telling Hye-sung, who was very upset at the time, that she has been with worse people before, so what exactly did she do with them then...which might cause some of us to speculate, just how far is she willing to go to obtain business for her firm? Inquiring minds want to know! In real-life, Yu-kyung might find herself btw the scandal pages of some sleazy tabloid! Somehow, I cannot imagine her FEMININE sister Yu-jin allowing herself to be fondled by drunken clients at a bar...or worse..... My sincere condolences to anyone who has a wife or mother who pushes their buttons like that.... In REAL LIFE there are "leaders", and then there are LEADERS! The LEADERS excercise strong professional management skills and can get things done by earning the respect of their followers thus inspiring them to work hard......Min-jae, Dong-Pyo, and perhaps In-Hwan come to mind........ On the other hand, we have "leaders" like Yu-kyung who need to take a course in anger management.
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Post by TheBo on May 18, 2004 7:14:35 GMT -5
Ohhh...interesting! I think comparing those three with Yu-kyung would, pardon the cliche', be like apples to oranges!.. In REAL LIFE there are "leaders", and then there are LEADERS! The LEADERS excercise strong professional management skills and can get things done by earning the respect of their followers thus inspiring them to work hard......Min-jae, Dong-Pyo, and perhaps In-Hwan come to mind........On the other hand, we have "leaders" like Yu-kyung who need to take a course in anger management. Well, you make an excellent case, eaglestorm. However, I don't think In-huan would fall into the Min-jae & Dong-pyo category, since he rules by fiat, just as you complain of Yu-kyung. (Yes, I took note of your "perhaps") I agree that she has exhibited some negative qualities, most of which you name. But you seemed to be dismissing everything positive that she has done. And you must admit, she certainly has mellowed since her character was introduced, it seems like she learned that other people are human. I took exception to your first post because you were not specific. Also, to segue into your tangent, "leaders" are rarely the people who "get things done." "Leaders" are usually sitting on their butts, ordering other people to do things FOR them, and then reaping the rewards for themselves. People who get things done are mothers, and wives, and teachers, and nurses, and secretaries (yah, yah, I'm not putting in a plug)...people who few people truly respect but who keep the world on keel. Bo
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Post by jacques on May 18, 2004 8:18:20 GMT -5
Well, you make an excellent case, eaglestorm. However, I don't think In-huan would fall into the Min-jae & Dong-pyo category, since he rules by fiat, just as you complain of Yu-kyung. (Yes, I took note of your "perhaps") I agree that she has exhibited some negative qualities, most of which you name. But you seemed to be dismissing everything positive that she has done. And you must admit, she certainly has mellowed since her character was introduced, it seems like she learned that other people are human. I took exception to your first post because you were not specific. Also, to segue into your tangent, "leaders" are rarely the people who "get things done." "Leaders" are usually sitting on their butts, ordering other people to do things FOR them, and then reaping the rewards for themselves. People who get things done are mothers, and wives, and teachers, and nurses, and secretaries (yah, yah, I'm not putting in a plug)...people who few people truly respect but who keep the world on keel. Bo "Rules by fiat" lol!! That would certainly describe In-Hwan: old wreck that he is!! About secretaries, where I am, they are known as the "Assistant Generals." As a matter of fact we prefer not to deal with the fat slobs that sit in the plush executive chairs, its the "assistant generals" that know the deal inside out and can carry on an intelligent business conversation (also the ones we send out restaurant certificates to on Secretaries' Day ;D ).
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Post by TheBo on May 18, 2004 10:30:17 GMT -5
"Rules by fiat" lol!! That would certainly describe In-Hwan: old wreck that he is!! About secretaries, where I am, they are known as the "Assistant Generals." ... It's official--I love you, Jacques! ;D Bo
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Post by redstone911 on May 18, 2004 10:58:22 GMT -5
Notice that nobody dares bully/talk down to her--not the Ohs, not RH, nobody! That prestige comes from having your own money, heading your own business, and not letting it go to your head such that you could marry the man YOU love, albeit your subordinate, and doing double duty as cashier at your mom-in-law's new restaurant which you put up the cash for! What a gal!! I was just wondering...if Yu-kyung's qualities are so great, I wonder why she didn't fall in love with someone like herself....I can understand why Hye-sung fell in love with her...but not because he is a masochist, which he's not, wanting to always be on the receiving end.... But Yu-kyung fell in love with a man who stood his ground when it mattered...who saw things from a different perspective.....someone who didn't allow himself to always be intimidated, who embodied leadership and moral qualities that she lacked! A man who was very caring and concerned, and very protective of her! If anything, she fell in love with a man who was very appealing to her FEMININE side......Oh, and let's not forget Hye-sung's sense of humor! Yu-kyung certainly loved that about him too! Eaglestorm reminded us of that episode where Yu-kyung allowed herself to be manhandled by those drunks, but after a brief argument outside their <A TITLE="Click for more information about hotel rooms, she couldn't get the incident out of her mind... but her pride couldn't allow her to admit she was wrong, and she knew it.....In that incident, Hye-sung proved that he too was a LEADER when it really mattered, and she had to follow his lead...He exercised strong moral leadership and showed her that there was more to life than just closing another deal, that her human dignity was of greater importance...Notice that when she went back to salvage the contract, she promptly returned on the last bus as Hye-sung had insisted, and he was there waiting for her, even though it was past 2 AM....And the next day, Hye-sung became "radiant" in her eyes! She could have gone drinking and returned late the following morning...but if she kept that up, sooner or later, someone would have slipped a date-rape drug in her drink, and the next morning, she would wake up in a hotel room with five guys next to her........ And of course, what about the time when he covered her with his body to protect her from falling building materials...and ended up with all those cuts and bruises....Or even when he ran out in the falling rain to get an umbrella, so that she wouldn't get drenched, never mind that he became soaking wet...Then again, I don't think he minded that much...especially since it led to that incident back in the hotel room....heheheheh! Now that's real LEADERSHIP!
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