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Post by bird11 on Jan 12, 2016 8:05:38 GMT -5
Yeah-- I agree Henry going around saying oI love you" to everyone is really annoying even if his voice is not-- I actually took it a differnt way than you did though- like maybe the writers were thinking "Americans need to go around saying "I love you" more because on most of the Korean reality shows I watch everyone is always putting their hands over their heads to make a heart shape and saying I Love you, and even BigBang (and others) does this thing with their thumb/first finger that looks like the bottom of a heart to me when they are seeing fans.... Yes, I have seen BigBang on Drama Fever-- most I have seen but one of the things I watched when I first started listening to them was the shows about their training, they really went thru a lot to get were they are, and also it shows how much their music has grown/change since their debut-- which is one of the reasons I like them, they sing so many differnt types of songs...... (Happy you are continuing to watch!)
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Post by jewel on Jan 12, 2016 10:19:54 GMT -5
like maybe the writers were thinking "Americans need to go around saying "I love you" more Definitely not. Some of the things Koreans make fun of Americans is that they think Americans sleep around too much, hug and kiss too easily and say "I love you" too randomly. They make fun of the language itself that allows people to say they love their husband or parents and in the same breath can say they love their car and they love their shoes. In Korean you cannot say you love (sarong) anything other than a person. If you were to ever say you "sarong" pizza, a Korean would want to lock you up. The word love (sarong) is just not used that way. It's considered almost a sacred word that only applies to a human being. Knowing this is what made me irritated with Henry going around saying "I love you" to every sundry person he meets. It seems like a subtle way the writers of this drama are making fun of Henry's character who I guess is supposed to be an American. And it's ironic if that's the case cuz in no other area can the writers of this drama be accused of being subtle. So far.
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Post by Knov1 on Jan 14, 2016 14:33:05 GMT -5
I think my problem right now is that I just don't like this drama. It took until eps 5 & 6 for me to start warming up to the series. While there are some serious moments, it has a lot of fluff. I think your outlook on the series will depend on whether you buy into SJS and SMA's relationship or not.
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Post by jewel on Jan 14, 2016 15:36:45 GMT -5
Wow good timing, Knov. I just finished epi 4 and said no way can I go on. But I'll try to watch two more and see.
There was no joy for me in watching episode 4. First of all, too many flashbacks in this drama. can't stand them. If there's a flashback in episode 6 of something that happened in episode 2 okay, but really is it necessary to do flashback of something that happened 5 minutes ago???
And all that wrestling and boxing - so boring!! And I find the dialogues very boring too. And still finding Henry's character extremely annoying...
I just don't understand what any of the characters are doing and why they're doing them. I can't sympathize with any of them or find any of them witty or funny or anything... When I read the reviews I'm flabbergasted at seeing all these 5 stars.
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Post by jewel on Jan 17, 2016 19:02:50 GMT -5
Ok. So I stuck to it till the beginning of episode 7 and I'm sad to say I can't stick to it any longer. Yes, episodes 5 and 6 did get better. But not by much. And the lead girl's reaction to SJS's kiss in the beginning of episode 7 was just the last straw. I mean she has been in another relationship for FIFTEEN years and yet this rather chaste kiss has her behaving like a nun just released from a convent. When no other time is she shown as even slightly a shy person. Besides, they sorta (accidentally) kissed already before anyway. The psychology is all wrong. What the writers of this drama don't know about women is a lot. I just don't have any interest in what happens to any of the characters or how this story (if there is one) will end... And when I feel this way I know it's time to say bye-bye to it. Very disappointing.
On the other hand, I started this drama called The Painter of the Wind and oh my lord it is soooo good!!! Amazing how I connect with these historical characters so much better than with the modern characters in Oh My Venus. Amazing how one drama is so good, how it stirs up all my senses and moves me to excitement and tears and then another drama leaves me bored and stone-cold no matter how I try to like it (for the sake of So Ji Sub).
Sorry to to all the fans of Oh My Venus. I'll stop complaining now.
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Post by bird11 on Jan 17, 2016 19:38:59 GMT -5
The Painter of the Wind is one of my favorites-- I loved the OST so much that I listen to it quite often. There are a couple short posts out there on this, but I wouldn't mind watching it again if you want to make a new thread or add to one of the old ones-- I think they are from 2010 Otherwise look for something else and we can watch it later when I am done with this....
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Post by Knov1 on Jan 20, 2016 2:09:56 GMT -5
Final Thoughts
Oh My Venus is a simple drama. It's simplicity might be its biggest flaw. The series relies heavily on So Ji Sub and Shin Min Ah to keep the story moving. Everything else is just thrown in to buy time until their next scene. I liked that most issues between Young Ho and Joo Eun were resolved by them talking things out. I also liked that Joo Eun learned self-defense and the series touched upon some of the injustices towards women.
The supporting characters could have been used more. The story of Joon Sung's mother wasn't all that clear. Soo Jin was mostly there to sulk. Ji Woong and Ji Yin provided comic relief but I didn't find either all that funny. Too many flashbacks. The finale was underwhelming. It felt like they ran out of story and scrambled to put something together. I liked Oh My Venus but it's mostly due to So Ji Sub and Shin Min Ah.
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Post by excelsior on Jan 20, 2016 15:17:43 GMT -5
like maybe the writers were thinking "Americans need to go around saying "I love you" more Definitely not. Some of the things Koreans make fun of Americans is that they think Americans sleep around too much, hug and kiss too easily and say "I love you" too randomly. They make fun of the language itself that allows people to say they love their husband or parents and in the same breath can say they love their car and they love their shoes. In Korean you cannot say you love (sarong) anything other than a person. If you were to ever say you "sarong" pizza, a Korean would want to lock you up. The word love (sarong) is just not used that way. It's considered almost a sacred word that only applies to a human being. It's funny that America is the poster child for Korean conservative ire, even though Americans are fairly conservative and prudish compared to Europeans.
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Post by jewel on Jan 21, 2016 14:43:15 GMT -5
Korea definitely has a love/hate relationship with U.S. I see this all the time in K dramas. In dramas, the epitome of success is going to America, whether it's to study or to live. Yet they never seem to pass up the chance to take jabs at Americans. It's like us with Britain. We all love the Brits but can't help making fun of them whenever we can.
I like simple dramas. I don't have a problem with that. In this drama I don't think simplicity is its biggest flaw. To me it's the writers not understanding their characters. Even though the characters are the writers' creation, they still can't have them do whatever they want them to. They have to follow a certain psychology that makes sense. For me anyway.
For example, when that stalker barges into her apartment: she freaks out. Fine, understandable so far. Then she's sitting RIGHT next to him, like two inches away from him, in the police station? No. No girl will sit that close to her stalker after the kind of scare she just had. And then afterwards she says she can't go back to her apartment because the guy lives a floor below her. What? She didn't have a problem practically sitting on his lap earlier, staring into his face!
Then when SJS kisses her: right afterwards, she looks him straight in the eye and asks him to "take off his clothes." Not his jacket, but his "clothes." I don't see any shyness there. Then we realize she wanted his jacket cuz she was so embarrassed she wanted to cover her face. Wow. Are you serious? Absolutely made no sense to me. If a girl is really embarrassed and shy with a guy kissing her, wouldn't it make more sense that the time would be right after it happens?? Very strange. Comedy effect wasted.
Little inconsistencies like that throw me way off and ruin my viewing completely. I found little psychological inconsistencies like that throughout the drama (well up to where I stopped watching, anyway) Very annoying.
But I do agree with you that the drama relies way too heavily on making the couple carry the whole show. That was another reason this drama didn't do it for me. Because the relationship didn't work for me at all, no chemistry what so ever.
Really?? That makes me so happy!! I'm already on episode 4 but I'll start a thread and re-watch with you from epi 1!!!!
P.S. Just started watching High End Crush starring that guy from 49 Days. It so soooo funny and cute. Am really enjoying it.
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Post by bird11 on Jan 21, 2016 18:36:38 GMT -5
I added High End Crush and Painter to my queue and will start watching them both-- I can go back and watch Oh My Venus and Unfortunate Boyfriend in between or at another time....no hurry I really liked 49 days, and that actor was also in Flower Boy Ramen Shop and Moon that Embraces the Sun and I watched those so I am looking forward to watching High End Crush. If you like, start threads for both.....maybe we can get someone (Knov???) to watch too....
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Post by jewel on Jan 25, 2016 20:50:50 GMT -5
that actor was also in Flower Boy Ramen Shop Oooooooh loved this drama, so funny and cute!!...
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